[xj] Newly acquired Sovereign S2, visit to Peter Crespin

Just made a short roundtrip to the UK with my friend Willem to pick
up my newly acquired (ebay) Sovereign series 2 on Tuesday. Visited
Peter Crespin on the way back, we had quite an enjoyable couple of
hours. Visited the Crespin Workshop, and lunch in The Cock Inn was
good too.

http://www.jag-lovers.org/snaps/snap_view.php3?id=1233345488

Car seems to be quite good on first look, drives OK too. Have to
look a little closer to be sure how good it is. I always wanted to
have an XJ. It is a giant step ahead from my 1968 Sovereign (the
420 model), which is more sports saloon than limousine.

Cheers,–
Pim, 67 E-type 4.2 FHC, 68 Sovereign, 78 Sovereign
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Did you have to ask directions for the luncheon venue? Ie, “how far
is…”?
Just had to ask! :slight_smile:

Fazal----- Original Message -----
From: “. Pim .” pim@vanderschaafonline.nl

Just made a short roundtrip to the UK with my friend Willem to pick
up my newly acquired (ebay) Sovereign series 2 on Tuesday. Visited
Peter Crespin on the way back, we had quite an enjoyable couple of
hours. Visited the Crespin Workshop, and lunch in The Cock Inn was
good too.

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In reply to a message from Fazal Cader sent Fri 30 Jan 2009:

I’ll add that one to the others I’d thought of Fazal.

It was a pleasure to meet Pim and Willem and practice my rusty
Flemish. We had a good time and they are too kind to describe the
draughty old barn as a workshop. It was a mess too, with pieces of
half-assembled E-type and sundry other junkl lying everywhere.

Pim - I forgot to give you a spare Daimler hub cap I had in the
garage, plus one of the Jag-Lover’s car badges that Nick
Johannessen left behind. If anyone from Holland comes to Stoneleigh
I’ll maybe pass them on.

We are off to North Carolina for a week for Dorothy’s interviews.
Computer access will be uncertain at the usual Days Inn or HoJos,
though we may get the odd peek at friend’s houses we’ll be visiting.
I have cam covers for Alex and a steering wheel for Ginger Corda
from the E-type list. Here’s hoping the US Airways flight manages
to avoid the cold wet stuff, or that the pilot is a good water
skier if we can’t. Airbus rules (and floats).

Pete–
The original message included these comments:

Did you have to ask directions for the luncheon venue? Ie, ‘‘how far
is…’’?
Just had to ask! :slight_smile:
Fazal

hours. Visited the Crespin Workshop, and lunch in The Cock Inn was
good too.


68 E-type OTS, 96 X300 XJ12, 94 XJR 5-speed manual
Cambridge, United Kingdom
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Make sure your Airbus pilot knows where the Ditch button is on the dash,
Peter. It really saved our folks on/in the Hudson.
;]–
Alex
79xj6L SII (BRG + wires)
86xj6 SIII (Black)
61 Sprite MkII (Red)
Menlo Park, Calif.

PeterCrespin wrote:
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We are off to North Carolina for a week for Dorothy’s interviews.
Computer access will be uncertain at the usual Days Inn or HoJos,
though we may get the odd peek at friend’s houses we’ll be visiting.
I have cam covers for Alex and a steering wheel for Ginger Corda
from the E-type list. Here’s hoping the US Airways flight manages
to avoid the cold wet stuff, or that the pilot is a good water
skier if we can’t. Airbus rules (and floats).

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In reply to a message from Fazal Cader sent Fri 30 Jan 2009:

No, unfortunately we didn’t. Would have been great fun …–
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Did you have to ask directions for the luncheon venue? Ie, ‘‘how far
is…’’?

hours. Visited the Crespin Workshop, and lunch in The Cock Inn was


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Pete,

If you are looking for hotels, try to use a Courtyard, or other Marriott
property. They all have computers and free internet access. Many other
hotels do as well but not sure of which chains.

Joe AOn 30 Jan 2009 at 21:44, PeterCrespin wrote:

We are off to North Carolina for a week for Dorothy’s interviews.
Computer access will be uncertain at the usual Days Inn or HoJos,
though we may get the odd peek at friend’s houses we’ll be visiting.
I have cam covers for Alex and a steering wheel for Ginger Corda
from the E-type list. Here’s hoping the US Airways flight manages
to avoid the cold wet stuff, or that the pilot is a good water
skier if we can’t. Airbus rules (and floats).

Pete

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The “ditching” button was never activated in the incident and would have
been a moot point anyway as the mili-second that the airplane touched
down on the water the belly was ripped away in many areas, allowing water
to flow inside the pressure vessel.

Joe AOn 30 Jan 2009 at 22:13, Alex Cannara wrote:

Make sure your Airbus pilot knows where the Ditch button is on the dash,
Peter. It really saved our folks on/in the Hudson.
;]

Alex
79xj6L SII (BRG + wires)
86xj6 SIII (Black)
61 Sprite MkII (Red)
Menlo Park, Calif.

PeterCrespin wrote:
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We are off to North Carolina for a week for Dorothy’s interviews.
Computer access will be uncertain at the usual Days Inn or HoJos,
though we may get the odd peek at friend’s houses we’ll be visiting.
I have cam covers for Alex and a steering wheel for Ginger Corda
from the E-type list. Here’s hoping the US Airways flight manages
to avoid the cold wet stuff, or that the pilot is a good water
skier if we can’t. Airbus rules (and floats).

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In reply to a message from joe@joea.com sent Sat 31 Jan 2009:

Joe:

Perhaps the amazing Sully, through conditioned or dconsidered
thinking knew that and did other more productive things with his
precious time. Marvelous flying.

Carl–
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The ‘‘ditching’’ button was never activated in the incident and would have
been a moot point anyway as the mili-second that the airplane touched
down on the water the belly was ripped away in many areas, allowing water
to flow inside the pressure vessel.


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Walnut Creek, California, United States
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cadjag wrote:

In reply to a message from joe@joea.com sent Sat 31 Jan 2009:

Joe:

Perhaps the amazing Sully, through conditioned or dconsidered
thinking knew that and did other more productive things with his
precious time. Marvelous flying.

Seconded, Carl - no doubt he will be crossexamined in detail to find out
if there is something to be gleaned and incorporated in future manuals.
That’s the way of airmen and why flying is as safe as it is - though
deadstick air liner landing on water will probably not become a
recommended practice…:slight_smile:

Frank
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One of the federal officials interviewed earlier said that the flight
simulations pilots periodically go through may be updated, per Sully!

My uncle always landed deadstick in France – WWII gliders.
;]–
Alex
79xj6L SII (BRG + wires)
86xj6 SIII (Black)
61 Sprite MkII (Red)
Menlo Park, Calif.

Frank Andersen wrote:

Seconded, Carl - no doubt he will be crossexamined in detail to find out
if there is something to be gleaned and incorporated in future manuals.
That’s the way of airmen and why flying is as safe as it is - though
deadstick air liner landing on water will probably not become a
recommended practice…:slight_smile:

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In reply to a message from Alex Cannara sent Sun 1 Feb 2009:

Alex:

That’s all the glider guys got in WWII landings in France. He is a
lucky guy. Gliders didn’t rank amongs the best ideas. I don’t want
to think of what their fate might have been if the Luftwaffe had
not been decimated. Perhaps, that might be why we no loger see them
as a means of landing troops in hostile country. Choppers are
tough enough.

A DC3 with three gliders in tow was chopped meat for the Ack Ack
guys. The Germans were smart enough to mess up any potential smooth
landing areas. The losses were tough.

Carl–
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One of the federal officials interviewed earlier said that the flight
simulations pilots periodically go through may be updated, per Sully!
My uncle always landed deadstick in France – WWII gliders.


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Like Jag enthusiasts, glider pilots just couldn’t resist danger! But,
if they survived a landing or two, they got cushy rewards – my uncle
got the job of flying liquor back & forth between officers’ clubs in the
European theatre. Guess that’s what led him to the hotel biz after the war!–
Alex
79xj6L SII (BRG + wires)
86xj6 SIII (Black)
61 Sprite MkII (Red)
Menlo Park, Calif.

cadjag wrote:

In reply to a message from Alex Cannara sent Sun 1 Feb 2009:

Alex:

That’s all the glider guys got in WWII landings in France. He is a
lucky guy. Gliders didn’t rank amongs the best ideas. I don’t want
to think of what their fate might have been if the Luftwaffe had
not been decimated. Perhaps, that might be why we no loger see them
as a means of landing troops in hostile country. Choppers are
tough enough.

A DC3 with three gliders in tow was chopped meat for the Ack Ack
guys. The Germans were smart enough to mess up any potential smooth
landing areas. The losses were tough.

Carl

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In reply to a message from Alex Cannara sent Wed 4 Feb 2009:

Alex:

Yeah, we referred to them as class VI stores. Fabulous prices.
About three or four of us would chip in and buy a case of real nice
Champagne. Jus the stuff to swill as we played cards or shot craps
on a cold Sunday afternoon in the BOQ. To make sure we didn’t
get ‘carried away’’ witht he bets, we limited them to DMarcs only,
no script. So each of us had a start budget that wouldn’t leave us
in the cold. No banks or checking acounts, it was cash)script) ijn
the pocket.

I always did pretty good at craps and it financed entertainment
when the weather was better.

Carl–
The original message included these comments:

Like Jag enthusiasts, glider pilots just couldn’t resist danger! But,
if they survived a landing or two, they got cushy rewards – my uncle
got the job of flying liquor back & forth between officers’ clubs in the
European theatre. Guess that’s what led him to the hotel biz after the war!


Carl Hutchins 1983 Jaguar XJ6 with LT1 and 1994 Jeep Grand
Walnut Creek, California, United States
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