[xj] Parts car, what to keep suggestions

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Hello,

Ok as some of you know I have two XJ6 series 2’s and a friend was going to restore one and I was going to restore the other but he has recently backed out of his interest in the project.

So, I am going to dismantle the second car and keep things like the tail lights, grille, bumpers, gauges and who knows what else, but what I would like to hear your opinions on is maybe a list of things that you would suggest I keep that I possibly haven’t thought of or possibly don’t even know about.
I will want to remove the parts that I want or should keep for spares for mine and then sell off anything that might be or will be left to help with the funds for the rebuild on the second one which is the best of the two, And please even if it seems to be an obvious thing still mention it as I don’t want to take it for granted that I see it as obvious.

The problem is I don’t have the room for both of the cars here and at the moment haven’t got time to be going back and forth to compare bits, Of coarse I will do a little of this but that would only cover the basic surface items. Even a list of things you would suggest that I do compare from one to the other that are important and not obvious, common known trouble spots that I don’t yet know about which is most of them and things I can’t see from a walk around.

I will keep all of your responses and refer to the often through the disassembly.

I feel like I am committing a crime disassembling a complete car and I know it should be resurrected to again prowl the streets. If only I had the time and excess money I would love to keep them both.

I am going to keep the dash and use it for my first restoration trial.

Also is there a manual or a CD/DVD manual that has the full disassembly instructions for the complete car ?

I need a bigger shed .

Thanks in advance for your replies
Best regards,
Steven mailto:@Steven===================================================
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Steven, it takes time to disassemble, then sort & store a car’s parts.
Many of the parts you might want in the future will be large, like
fenders, hood, engine/trans, etc. So, don’t you have any way of just
having the car nearby, perhaps covered from the weather, so you can
spend time on the other car and just take what you need from this one,
when you need it?

As for manual, the SII Parts Guide from the factory is good for seeing
how things go together & come apart.–
Alex
79xj6L SII (BRG + wires)
86xj6 SIII (Black)
61 Sprite MkII (Red)
Menlo Park, Calif.

Steven wrote:

Hello,

Ok as some of you know I have two XJ6 series 2’s and a friend was
going to restore one and I was going to restore the other but he has
recently backed out of his interest in the project.

So, I am going to dismantle the second car and keep things like the
tail lights, grille, bumpers, gauges and who knows what else, but
what I would like to hear your opinions on is maybe a list of things
that you would suggest I keep that I possibly haven’t thought of or
possibly don’t even know about. I will want to remove the parts that
I want or should keep for spares for mine and then sell off anything
that might be or will be left to help with the funds for the rebuild
on the second one which is the best of the two, And please even if it
seems to be an obvious thing still mention it as I don’t want to take
it for granted that I see it as obvious.

The problem is I don’t have the room for both of the cars here and at
the moment haven’t got time to be going back and forth to compare
bits, Of coarse I will do a little of this but that would only cover
the basic surface items. Even a list of things you would suggest that
I do compare from one to the other that are important and not
obvious, common known trouble spots that I don’t yet know about which
is most of them and things I can’t see from a walk around.

I will keep all of your responses and refer to the often through the
disassembly.

I feel like I am committing a crime disassembling a complete car and
I know it should be resurrected to again prowl the streets. If only I
had the time and excess money I would love to keep them both.

I am going to keep the dash and use it for my first restoration
trial.

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In reply to a message from Steven sent Sun 15 Feb 2009:

Ahhhh what a delema! If only we had more space!

I have the very same problem. I bought a second vehicle as a donor
car whilst I was restoring my XJC. Having the whole car available
was really quite essential during the restoration process, as you
will require all sorts of odds and ends from major components right
down to the odd screw, washer, relay electrical plug or plastic
trim. Having to source these bits from a wrecker/breaker every time
you find that you need something is not only time consuming but
EXTREMELY costly! So if you are intending to commence a
restoration, I’d strongly suggest that you find somewhere to store
the car until you are done.

Even then, as I have found now after getting my coupe back on the
road, I will need to do some work on the rear end (replace discs,
tighten diff bolts, rebuild calipers, etc…) My thinking is to drop
the rear out of the donor car and rebuld that in my own time,
without having to worry about taking the coupe off the road for
more than a weekend to swap rear ends come the time.

My point being, you have a british engineered classic so you will
never be able to predict what you may or may not need in the
future, other than EVERYTHING!

Good Luck;–
The original message included these comments:

Ok as some of you know I have two XJ6 series 2’s and a friend was going to restore one and I was going to restore the other but he has recently backed out of his interest in the project.
So, I am going to dismantle the second car and keep things like the tail lights, grille, bumpers, gauges and who knows what else, but what I would like to hear your opinions on is maybe a list of things that you would suggest I keep that I possibly haven’t thought of or possibly don’t even know about.

–
John Mann, Jaguar XJ4.2C, Rover 75 Tourer, Rover 827 Vitesse
Melbourne/Vic, Australia
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Would be nice if you could take the wiring harness and all of the associated
plugs out of the car. Good to have the extra wiring and especially of the
correct wire size and color code if needed.

Joe AOn 15 Feb 2009 at 18:52, Steven wrote:

Hello,

Ok as some of you know I have two XJ6 series 2’s and a friend was going to restore one and I was going to restore the other but he has recently backed out of his interest in the project.

So, I am going to dismantle the second car and keep things like the tail lights, grille, bumpers, gauges and who knows what else, but what I would like to hear your opinions on is maybe a list of things that you would suggest I keep that I possibly haven’t thought of or possibly don’t even know about.
I will want to remove the parts that I want or should keep for spares for mine and then sell off anything that might be or will be left to help with the funds for the rebuild on the second one which is the best of the two, And please even if it seems to be an obvious thing still mention it as I don’t want to take it for granted that I see it as obvious.

Thanks in advance for your replies
Best regards,
Steven mailto:vk5sp@melissas.net

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Agreed on wiring and plug-ins.

Small stuff…door lock rod clips, black trim screws, any unique clips and
fasteners …can come in very handy, too. Don’t forget all those neat
serrated washers used on the engine ! Climate control amp and servo, of
known good, are worth having. Gauges, switches, relays, door lock
solenoids…

In my years playing with old cars and saving spare parts, its almost always
small stuff that holds up progress…and having a spare saves the day.

Doug Dwyer
Longview Washington USA
1995 XJRFrom: joe@joea.com

Would be nice if you could take the wiring harness and all of the
associated
plugs out of the car. Good to have the extra wiring and especially of the
correct wire size and color code if needed.

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In reply to a message from Doug Dwyer sent Sun 15 Feb 2009:

Agree on all the little stuff. Any good bits of chrome or hard to
find trim pieces would be worth stashing away. Chrome turbo wheels
are no longer available and virtually impossible to rechrome. If
the car has any Cheney hose clamps, grab 'em. They’re worth their
weight in gold here with the restorers. Some guys have paid $10 US
each for them in as new condition.–
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In my years playing with old cars and saving spare parts, its almost always
small stuff that holds up progress…and having a spare saves the day.

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John Testrake 74XJ12L rhd, 84 XJ6 700R4
St.Louis, United States
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Steven,
For any parts that you save, keep the requisite screws, bolts, washers
stored with the part.

Since the floors are prone to rust, cut out and save as much as you can.

As a parting gesure to the stripped hulk, take all the pozi screws.

Some day (yeah, sure), clean the rust off your bits and pieces.

Gene McGough
XJ6 II 1976
XK-150 FHC S834515DN

So, I am going to dismantle the second car and keep things like the tail
lights, grille, bumpers, gauges and who knows what else, but what I would
like to hear your opinions on is maybe a list of things that you would
suggest I keep that I possibly haven’t thought of or possibly don’t even
know about.
I will want to remove the parts that I want or should keep for spares for
mine and then sell off anything that might be or will be left to help with
the funds for the rebuild on the second one which is the best of the two,
And please even if it seems to be an obvious thing still mention it as I
don’t want to take it for granted that I see it as obvious.

Best regards,----- Original Message -----
From: “Steven” vk5sp@melissas.net

Steven mailto:vk5sp@melissas.net

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This is exactly why taking a car apart and dumping the rest is time
consuming & perhaps regretful – what was in “the rest” may come back to
haunt. Why not make every effort to find a place to keep the whole car?
Then too, it automatically shows how the parts went together.–
Alex
79xj6L SII (BRG + wires)
86xj6 SIII (Black)
61 Sprite MkII (Red)
Menlo Park, Calif.

Doug Dwyer wrote:

Agreed on wiring and plug-ins.

Small stuff…door lock rod clips, black trim screws, any unique clips
and fasteners …can come in very handy, too. Don’t forget all those
neat serrated washers used on the engine ! Climate control amp and
servo, of known good, are worth having. Gauges, switches, relays, door
lock solenoids…

In my years playing with old cars and saving spare parts, its almost
always small stuff that holds up progress…and having a spare saves
the day.

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Steven, 6 cars is where my wife forced me, at threat of extreme pain
delivered by kitchen utensils, to sell one. So we have 5 and indeed,
your neighborhood sounds challenging for car guys. I hope you find a
relative or really good friend to store it.

On the Factory Parts Guide, try…

http://www.bentleypublishers.com/jaguar/index.htm

Not just Jags…
http://www.midlifeclassiccars.com/--
Alex
79xj6L SII (BRG + wires)
86xj6 SIII (Black)
61 Sprite MkII (Red)
Menlo Park, Calif.

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In reply to a message from Alex Cannara sent Sun 15 Feb 2009:

Is it possible to put a lift in your shed & stack the spare car?
Or build an elevated parking spot over the ‘parts’ car.

The benefits of having an example to see how it comes apart is a
real timesaver.

But, I do understand having to deal with those senseless dodos that
seem to think our treasures are unsightly. . . I have a few dogs to
keep the cats company & the difficulties in keeping several 50 year
old greyhound busses is time consuming to say the least.

So, look at your available storage & keep all of the sub assemblies
as you can, like the doors, bonnets, bumpers, suspension
components, all things electrical, etc. The experience you get from
taking it all apart will serve you well later on. Don’t
underestimate the value of pictures during the dissambly. Bag & tag
everything that you can, no matter how obvious it seems at the
time, you will be glad you did later. . .

I was really glad to have my parts car when I needed the little
plastic bushings on the door lock rods. So, yes, it is the little
stuff that proves the most benefit of having the spare car.

Good luck with your efforts.–
The original message included these comments:

This is exactly why taking a car apart and dumping the rest is time
consuming & perhaps regretful – what was in ‘‘the rest’’ may come back to
haunt. Why not make every effort to find a place to keep the whole car?
Then too, it automatically shows how the parts went together.

–
kyle4501
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In reply to a message from kyle4501 sent Mon 16 Feb 2009:

Dogs and cats living together? Will wonders never cease? LOL–
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seem to think our treasures are unsightly. . . I have a few dogs to
keep the cats company & the difficulties in keeping several 50 year
old greyhound busses is time consuming to say the least.

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In reply to a message from wosmo sent Mon 16 Feb 2009:

Chris:

Greyhounds and Jaguars = dogs and cats!
-:slight_smile: -:slight_smile:

I vote to exert all reasonable effort to keep it.

Immortality!!!

Carl–
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seem to think our treasures are unsightly. . . I have a few dogs to
keep the cats company & the difficulties in keeping several 50 year
old greyhound busses is time consuming to say the least.

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Walnut Creek, California, United States
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You go girl! The only way to live is indeed to expect to outlive
everyone else!–
Alex
79xj6L SII (BRG + wires)
86xj6 SIII (Black)
61 Sprite MkII (Red)
Menlo Park, Calif.

Steven wrote:

Hello,

I have received the message loud and clear and it makes perfect sense so I am going to try to keep the car as long as I can. I am not sure how yet but I am more determined now and who knows if I get through the rebuild without touching it to much I might have another one to do, I think sometimes I expect to live till I am 200 years old.

Thanks for all of your replies

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