[xj] Photo radoar

Dear Jag lovers:

Here in Colorado the powers-that-be have instituted photo
radar to nab those dirty scoundrels that exceed posted
limits or caution lights at intersections and then mail it
to your address with a fine to be paid(no points). However,
the State legislature decreed that unless the tickets are
served in person, the recepient can ignore the ticket.
There is still a small bit of sanity in the wild, wild West.

Dennis Orr

1973 XJ-6 with 55,000 original miles

At 09:58 06-11-98 -0700, Dennis Orr wrote:

Here in Colorado the powers-that-be have instituted photo
radar to nab those dirty scoundrels that exceed posted
limits or caution lights at intersections and then mail it
to your address with a fine to be paid(no points).

Run a red light, or speed, and NO POINTS? Count your blessings.

I live a few miles north of San Francisco, and in The City, they’ve got
cameras set up at several killer intersections around town. Haven’t
followed how they’re progresssing with it (since I don’t run reds, and
speeding is for the open freeway). The local news tracked several
intersections themselves (two camera setups - one pointing at the light,
and a synchronized one looking down over the crosswalk/stop line) and
caught an alarming number of people buzzing through not on “deep shades of
yellow”, but one full one and two second periods after the light had
clearly turned red - about the time the people who have a green are
starting to go. These are on busy city intersections. People needlessly
get KILLED from this - often the ones who are in the right of way and
unarmoured pedestrians. The driver side of the slower vehicle - the one
just out on the green is the one exposed to the front of the speeding
(that’s what people do to eek through an intersection late) vehicle that
ran the red.

While I don’t like the propagation of “Big Brother” law enforcement
tactics, some laws do deserve to be prosecuted - running lights is clearly
one of them. I don’t happen to share your glee in your state’s legislative
move to ban the mechanism.

However, the State legislature decreed that unless the tickets are
served in person, the recepient can ignore the ticket.

I suspect several members of the legislature probably got such tickets, or
were prone to such offences when police weren’t around, and did it for
their own benefit.

Does this mean the police merely have to now drive to your home after
they’ve developed the film, and hand you the ticket, or does it cut the
balls off the whole photo-ticket system (which the taxpayers have already
paid for)?

http://jaguar.professional.org/
Sean Straw '88 Jaguar XJSC 5.3L V12
Marin County, California '69 Buick GranSport 455 V8

Here in between San Francisco and Colorado (Utah) they used the “photocop”
for a few years but have sense outlawed its use. The little machines are
still used in busy areas to advise drivers of speed but no tickets are
sent. The new tactic is sticking dummies in cop cars (not live dummies
like usual but slightly more intelligent mannequins) and putting them by
school zones. It is amazing how fast people can brake when they see the
cop.

C. S. Warner
69 xj6-----Original Message-----
From: Sean Straw [SMTP:sean.straw+Jaguar@mail.professional.org]
Sent: Friday, November 06, 1998 12:11 PM
To: xj@jag-lovers.org
Subject: Re: [xj] Photo radoar

At 09:58 06-11-98 -0700, Dennis Orr wrote:

Here in Colorado the powers-that-be have instituted photo
radar to nab those dirty scoundrels that exceed posted
limits or caution lights at intersections and then mail it
to your address with a fine to be paid(no points).

Run a red light, or speed, and NO POINTS? Count your blessings.

I live a few miles north of San Francisco, and in The City, they’ve got
cameras set up at several killer intersections around town. Haven’t
followed how they’re progresssing with it (since I don’t run reds, and
speeding is for the open freeway). The local news tracked several
intersections themselves (two camera setups - one pointing at the light,
and a synchronized one looking down over the crosswalk/stop line) and
caught an alarming number of people buzzing through not on “deep shades of
yellow”, but one full one and two second periods after the light had
clearly turned red - about the time the people who have a green are
starting to go. These are on busy city intersections. People needlessly
get KILLED from this - often the ones who are in the right of way and
unarmoured pedestrians. The driver side of the slower vehicle - the one
just out on the green is the one exposed to the front of the speeding
(that’s what people do to eek through an intersection late) vehicle that
ran the red.

While I don’t like the propagation of “Big Brother” law enforcement
tactics, some laws do deserve to be prosecuted - running lights is clearly
one of them. I don’t happen to share your glee in your state’s legislative
move to ban the mechanism.

However, the State legislature decreed that unless the tickets are
served in person, the recepient can ignore the ticket.

I suspect several members of the legislature probably got such tickets, or
were prone to such offences when police weren’t around, and did it for
their own benefit.

Does this mean the police merely have to now drive to your home after
they’ve developed the film, and hand you the ticket, or does it cut the
balls off the whole photo-ticket system (which the taxpayers have already
paid for)?

http://jaguar.professional.org/
Sean Straw '88 Jaguar XJSC 5.3L V12
Marin County, California '69 Buick GranSport 455 V8