[xj] Power antenna

Has anyone had any luck replacing just the steel mast and plastic
cable on their power antenna? My cable is broken but the motor and
mast are fine. I guess I could pull it up when I need it and push
it down when I don’t, but that’s not very Jaguar like now is it.

It’s OE and I really hate to change to an aftermarket unit.–
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In reply to a message from Tim. sent Sat 7 Feb 2009:

If you can get a new mast it’s a fairly easy job, more or less just
a case of removing the appropriate cover from the motor, releasing
the cable tensioner, and withdrawing the old cable and mast.
Fitting the new mast is a reversal of the procedure, with the
addition of cleaning/re-greasing where needed.
You have to be prepared for Murphy’s Law to kick in though.

Dave–
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Has anyone had any luck replacing just the steel mast and plastic
cable on their power antenna? My cable is broken but the motor and
mast are fine. I guess I could pull it up when I need it and push
it down when I don’t, but that’s not very Jaguar like now is it.
It’s OE and I really hate to change to an aftermarket unit.


Dave Collishaw '79 S2 Daimler Sov '92 xj40
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In reply to a message from sparx sent Sat 7 Feb 2009:

Dave,

Yes, it looks fairly easy, as I have already dismantled the ‘‘spool’’
that is attached to the motor.

Do you know where I might be able to find a new mast ?

Oh, and I am a poster child for Murphy’s law !!–
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If you can get a new mast it’s a fairly easy job, more or less just
a case of removing the appropriate cover from the motor, releasing
the cable tensioner, and withdrawing the old cable and mast.
Fitting the new mast is a reversal of the procedure, with the
addition of cleaning/re-greasing where needed.
You have to be prepared for Murphy’s Law to kick in though.


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Tim,

I replaced the antenna mast on our 1990 XJ-S convertible a

couple of years ago because the mast occasionally stuck part way going
down and no manner of cleaning or straightening the mast made any
difference. A partially retracted antenna mast did not appear proper on
a Jaguar. I haven’t replaced the antenna on any of our Series III XJ6
cars, but I suspect it’s the same basic product and procedure.

  I found a supplier on ebay advertising replacement antenna

masts and purchased one. The instructions were excellent and the entire
removal of the old mast and replacement with a new one only took a few
minutes. I did not have to remove the antenna motor assembly, only the
mast along with the toothed white plastic cable that moves the mast up
and down. I was amazed at how quick and easy it was to replace. It was
an inexpensive fix ($20?) and I haven’t had any problems since then with
the radio antenna going up and down properly in our 1990 XJ-S.

Be sure to purchase the correct one for your year and model

Jaguar. Try searching on ebay for “Jaguar antenna” and see what’s
there. If you don’t see exactly what you are looking for, send an email
to some of the ebay advertisers and see if they have exactly what you
need.

Regards,

Paul M. Novak

1990 XJ-S Classic Collection convertible
1987 XJ6 Vanden Plas
1985 XJ6 Vanden Plas (parts)
1984 XJ6 Vanden Plas
1969 E-Type FHC
1957 MK VIII Saloon
Ramona, CA
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Subject: [xj] Power antenna

Has anyone had any luck replacing just the steel mast and plastic
cable on their power antenna? My cable is broken but the motor and
mast are fine. I guess I could pull it up when I need it and push
it down when I don’t, but that’s not very Jaguar like now is it.

It’s OE and I really hate to change to an aftermarket unit.


Tim '83 VDP '60 MGA '69 MGB '86 XJ6 (Parts)

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In reply to a message from Paul M. Novak sent Sat 7 Feb 2009:

Thanks Paul,

You read my mind. I have done just that. The mast that is
advertised is for an XJS of the same year as my VDP. I am not sure
the antennas are the same between the XJS and the XJ6. I would
assume they are. I think including shipping the cost is $21.

I will wait until they respond.–
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I found a supplier on ebay advertising replacement antenna

masts and purchased one. The instructions were excellent and the entire
removal of the old mast and replacement with a new one only took a few
minutes. I did not have to remove the antenna motor assembly, only the
mast along with the toothed white plastic cable that moves the mast up
an inexpensive fix ($20?) and I haven’t had any problems since then with
Jaguar. Try searching on ebay for ‘‘Jaguar antenna’’ and see what’s
there. If you don’t see exactly what you are looking for, send an email
to some of the ebay advertisers and see if they have exactly what you
need.


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Tim. wrote:

In reply to a message from Paul M. Novak sent Sat 7 Feb 2009:

Thanks Paul,

You read my mind. I have done just that. The mast that is
advertised is for an XJS of the same year as my VDP. I am not sure
the antennas are the same between the XJS and the XJ6. I would
assume they are. I think including shipping the cost is $21.
I will wait until they respond.

First look at the driveline, Tim…

…there are two varieties; toothed and smooth - not interchangeable. In
the first case a cogged wheel is driving the mast - the line is then
loosely collected in the ‘drum’ on the motor. With the smooth line the
end of the line is fixed in the ‘drum’ and the stiffness of the line
then moves the mast. With the smooth type a nylon fishing line of
suitable thickness will be perfectly suitable. In both cases the
driveline is crimped on to the mast itself, and in theory a suitable
replacement driveline can be recrimped on if the mast itelf is
undamaged, but the mast metal is very frail here…

The characteristic of the Jaguar set-up is that without sufficient room
for the motor in the wing only the mast and its well is placed here. A
Bowden conduit then takes the drivline down to the motor - requiring a
much longer line than on the usual systems where motor and mast are
integrated.

Whether the XJ and XJS setups are identical in this area I don’t know,
but the Bowden conduit is rather frail and if removed should be handled
with care - it’s the only Jaguar specific item. All that said; a PO may
have installed something that is not OEM…:slight_smile:

Frank
xj6 85 Sov Europe (UK/NZ)>The original message included these comments:

I found a supplier on ebay advertising replacement antenna
masts and purchased one. The instructions were excellent and the entire
removal of the old mast and replacement with a new one only took a few
minutes. I did not have to remove the antenna motor assembly, only the
mast along with the toothed white plastic cable that moves the mast up
an inexpensive fix ($20?) and I haven’t had any problems since then with
Jaguar. Try searching on ebay for ‘‘Jaguar antenna’’ and see what’s
there. If you don’t see exactly what you are looking for, send an email
to some of the ebay advertisers and see if they have exactly what you
need.

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In reply to a message from Frank Andersen sent Sat 7 Feb 2009:

Frank,

Thanks for the advice. I believe mine to be OEM and it has the
smooth line. I have not removed the mast itself, but you describe
what I thought I might find when I do. The mast itself is not
damaged, and I am not sure why the line broke, other then it has
been bitter cold here.My first thought to a replacement line was
plastic line from a grass trimmer. I may have time to investigate
today.

Thanks.–
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…there are two varieties; toothed and smooth - not interchangeable. In
the first case a cogged wheel is driving the mast - the line is then
loosely collected in the ‘drum’ on the motor. With the smooth line the
end of the line is fixed in the ‘drum’ and the stiffness of the line
then moves the mast. With the smooth type a nylon fishing line of
suitable thickness will be perfectly suitable. In both cases the
driveline is crimped on to the mast itself, and in theory a suitable
replacement driveline can be recrimped on if the mast itelf is
undamaged, but the mast metal is very frail here…


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In reply to a message from Tim. sent Sun 8 Feb 2009:

Hey Tim

I had posted some photos on JL some time ago when I was working on
an antenna, but never wrote anything about them.
Here is a link to the photos…
http://www.jag-lovers.org/snaps/snap_view.php3?id=1230334487

I have torn down an antenna and swapped the masts. It’s a bit
fiddly, but can be done. I’ve never tried to just replace the
string. There was quite a few posts a few years back about that. I
think the most difficult part is to get the crimps undone on both
sides of the line without damaging either.

When I swapped one out I did have to dissassemble the assembly.

I had also pulled an assembly from an XJS a long time ago. It seems
that the line may have been a bit shorter, but the part numbers
were the same IIRC. So…

David
www.EverydayXJ.com–
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Thanks for the advice. I believe mine to be OEM and it has the
smooth line. I have not removed the mast itself, but you describe
what I thought I might find when I do. The mast itself is not
damaged, and I am not sure why the line broke, other then it has
been bitter cold here.My first thought to a replacement line was
plastic line from a grass trimmer. I may have time to investigate
today.


84 XJ6 (Driver) 86 XJ6 (Project) Parts cars piling up.
Rockwell, NC, United States
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In reply to a message from DavidBoger sent Sun 8 Feb 2009:

This for Tim. I’ve found that weedeater plastic cable works just
fine for replacing the original antenna cable. Just match the size
of the old with that of the new and you’re in business.
Dave Maupin
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I have torn down an antenna and swapped the masts. It’s a bit
fiddly, but can be done. I’ve never tried to just replace the
string. There was quite a few posts a few years back about that. I
think the most difficult part is to get the crimps undone on both
sides of the line without damaging either.

G’day David,
I replaced mine with grass trimmer line some years ago. If the
crimps on the end of the line are heated with a soldering iron, the old line
can be removed easily and the new line inserted, the new line ‘welds’ itself
to the crimps quite well.
regards,
John Hudson
Brisbane Australia
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Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: [xj] Power antenna

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Tim. wrote:

In reply to a message from Frank Andersen sent Sat 7 Feb 2009:

Frank,

Thanks for the advice. I believe mine to be OEM and it has the
smooth line. I have not removed the mast itself, but you describe
what I thought I might find when I do. The mast itself is not
damaged, and I am not sure why the line broke, other then it has
been bitter cold here.My first thought to a replacement line was
plastic line from a grass trimmer. I may have time to investigate
today.

Perfectly feasible, Tim - as others have implied as well…

You have to open the the ‘drum’ to remove the old line and to reattach
the replacement - and it is a good idea to remove the rear light cluster
to better see what you are up against…

With the mast unscrewed from the ‘well’ the broken bit pulls out with
the mast, but as you have to clear out the old line at the motor;
compare the two bits to get an idea of the proper length for the
replacement. The line needs no particular reason to break, but a look at
the break may reveal something - not uncommonly some defect in the
conduit…

The motors prinsipally rotate one way to extent the mast - radio ‘on’.
And turn the other way to take the mast down - radio ‘off’…

Frank
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In reply to a message from DavidBoger sent Sun 8 Feb 2009:

Thanks, David, And all that have responded.

That looks just like mine. It looks like I am going to try the
grass trimmer line as soon as I can find the right size. I have yet
to remove the mast to see how the line is crimped over there, but
your pictures are very helpful.

I will let all know how I make out.–
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I have torn down an antenna and swapped the masts. It’s a bit
fiddly, but can be done. I’ve never tried to just replace the
string. There was quite a few posts a few years back about that. I
think the most difficult part is to get the crimps undone on both
sides of the line without damaging either.
When I swapped one out I did have to dissassemble the assembly.
I had also pulled an assembly from an XJS a long time ago. It seems
that the line may have been a bit shorter, but the part numbers
were the same IIRC. So…
David


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What do you guys do when your power antenna dies? A few years ago I found
an after market replacement, but today - no joy. It seems that this sort of
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In reply to a message from Bill Thom sent Thu 11 Nov 2010:

I found 2 used ones on EBAY a while back in fact you can still, buy
them new. I my case I took one of the EBAY ones apart, it came with
the little green relay as well. They are not too dificult to
refurbish. Just keep track of what goes where. Mine now works
perfectly. However first I would check to see if you are getting
power on the wire to the relay Circuit 30 purple wire. The trigger
wire gets it signal from the radio when it is powered up - Circuit
85 white and pink. The ground is Circuit 86 black. The power to the
up / down are Circuit 87 blue/white and 87a blue/red. If you have
not cleaned the antenna recently you may be getting enough
resistance to antenna movement to the extent if has blown the #3
fuse. Activate the antenna snf gently pull the mast up then clean
it. If that fails tear it apart and refurbish it.–
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Alyn, there’s power; I can hear the motor running. Where in the world can
you buy them new? Neither I nor the car stereo shop where I got one 3 or 4
years ago can find a source.

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Subject: Re: [xj] Power antenna

In reply to a message from Bill Thom sent Thu 11 Nov 2010:

I found 2 used ones on EBAY a while back in fact, you can still buy
them new.

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Google DAC3542.

AFAIK the actual OEM unit is not available. It was several hundred dollars.
The replacements sold now are probably brand-x but are still the correct
configuration. That is, a drive unit separate from the antenna mast/tube.

Or…

Nowadays there are many universal fit aftermarket units, some of them almost
certainly small enough (my guess here) to fit behind the tail light without
needing to have a remote located drive unit.

Perhaps yours can be disassembled and repaired? Worth a try , perhaps.

Cheers
Doug Dwyer
Longview Washington USA
1995 XJRFrom: “Bill Thom” whthom@charter.net

Alyn, there’s power; I can hear the motor running. Where in the world can
you buy them new? Neither I nor the car stereo shop where I got one 3 or
4
years ago can find a source.

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In reply to a message from Doug Dwyer sent Fri 12 Nov 2010:

Bill,

Try David Boger at http://www.everydayxj.com/

David has torn apart enough Series II XJ cars that he surely
has complete units as well as parts on hand or maybe he has
some coming in. If not my guess is that he has knowledge
where to get it.

Check the archives there was a long thread about a year ago
where somebody took his apart and made a good installation
out of several junker parts.–
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Google DAC3542.
AFAIK the actual OEM unit is not available. It was several hundred dollars.
The replacements sold now are probably brand-x but are still the correct
configuration. That is, a drive unit separate from the antenna mast/tube.
Or…
Nowadays there are many universal fit aftermarket units, some of them almost
certainly small enough (my guess here) to fit behind the tail light without
needing to have a remote located drive unit.
Perhaps yours can be disassembled and repaired? Worth a try , perhaps.


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Too much coffee, ‘‘Series I, II & III’’ !!!

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I’ve had a standing order into David for any bits of a S1
antenna. So far, no luck. Mine has a bad connection where
the wire enters, and needs replacement. I pick up the local
NPR station with no antenna, so I’m happy. But the kids are
constantly criticizing my radio–it won’t pick up their
music stations, not to mention the somewhat strange to them
tuning with a knob.

I want to try a Series III antenna, but cutting one hole and
having to fill another seems overly risky without knowing
that it will work. Has anyone done that? I looked at
photos once and it seems that a S1 fuel pump would have to
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