I was looking at my rear hubs today after cleaning them during my
IRS rebuild and I noticed my hub grease lub plugs where facing
towards the rear of the car.Looking at my parts catalogue and
manuals they appear to face towards the front I E radius arm side.
I have a 82 xj6 could it be possible that I’m looking at older
illustrations and changes where made with the later IRS models
moving the lub plug from front to rear.I took pictures before I
began tear down . Could the hubs have been installed backwards
some where along the way? Thanks for any help.
Robert Barclay
Elkton ,Maryland–
Jaggid 82 XJ6
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Could be. They are normally found at the front of the Hub bearing housing. I
am not sure what difference it would make though because I think they are
pretty symmetrical. Are you having alignment problems or something. ?
Bob.>I was looking at my rear hubs today after cleaning them during my
IRS rebuild and I noticed my hub grease lub plugs where facing
towards the rear of the car. Could the hubs have been installed backwards
some where along the way?
In reply to a message from Bob. . sent Wed 24 Nov 2004:
Bob I needed to replace the rear rotors and calipers and already
had the parts to rebuild the IRS that where intended for another
car.Even through every thing was within spec’s I’m glad I decided
to replace the bearings and bushings, when I tore down the hubs
water had got to the fulcrum bearings and they had begun to freeze
up.
I haven’t had the time to look at the hubs but they both have the
same part #.I’m going to measure them to see what if any differents
it makes as to which side the the grease lub plug is facing .Mine
where facing to the rear with no apparent ill affects so thats how
I’ll replace them after measurement.It did concern me when I got
home from the shop and noticed that all my manuals and parts rom
showed them facing forward. The car has 74K on the odometer and I
don’t tkink
the hubs have ever been apart before now old type seals etc.If they
where rebuilt it wasn’t recent and if I have a problem with
alignment they could be the cause I will let you know after
measurement but I don,t recall any noticeble off set as to the axle
center and fulcrum bolt housing. As long as their both facing the
same direction it may not matter.Thanks
Robert–
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Could be. They are normally found at the front of the Hub bearing housing. I
am not sure what difference it would make though because I think they are
pretty symmetrical. Are you having alignment problems or something. ?
Another piece of advice I will give you is to clean the Hub Bearing housings
and check them for cracks. They are known for forming stress cracks in the
castings. However they do need to be immaculately clean to be able to
inspect them thoroughly, but it is worth the time and effort.
Among the five cars I presently own all with different mileage I have found
two Hub Bearing Housings that had cracked. Rather than change them for new
ones I have had a very experienced welder fix the cracks for me. They have
stood up really well ever since. Also this was not such an isolated cause as
may be suggested. A couple of Jaguar owner friends found they had cracked
Hubs on their cars as well.
In reply to a message from Bob. . sent Wed 24 Nov 2004:
Bob I needed to replace the rear rotors and calipers and already
had the parts to rebuild the IRS that where intended for another
car.Even through every thing was within spec’s I’m glad I decided
to replace the bearings and bushings, when I tore down the hubs
water had got to the fulcrum bearings and they had begun to freeze
up.
In reply to a message from Bob. . sent Sat 27 Nov 2004:
Bob
Iwould probably polish them if I where to put wires on cause they
do look nice clean.Thanks for the welding tip. There was a post a
while back where the lister has hub failure while driving and at
the time you suggested kerosene and talcum to find cracks. Will
diesel work as good as karosene or doe’s the dye in diesel stop the
talcum from showing cracks Thanks
Robert Barclay
Elkton ,Md–
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and check them for cracks. They are known for forming stress cracks in the
castings. However they do need to be immaculately clean to be able to
inspect them thoroughly, but it is worth the time and effort.
I am not so sure that was me because I have never used the talcum powder to
spot the cracks. Once real clean just the kerosine is enough to highlight
them if you have any of course. Not all Hubs Carriers develope them.
Bob
Iwould probably polish them if I where to put wires on cause they
do look nice clean.Thanks for the welding tip. There was a post a
while back where the lister has hub failure while driving and at
the time you suggested kerosene and talcum to find cracks.
Robert, an alternative to polishing the hubs is to spray them flat or satin
black, then they disappear from view when wires are on and it looks like the
car is floating on the wheels. :]
In reply to a message from Bob. . sent Sat 27 Nov 2004:
Bob
Iwould probably polish them if I where to put wires on cause they
do look nice clean.Thanks for the welding tip. There was a post a
while back where the lister has hub failure while driving and at
the time you suggested kerosene and talcum to find cracks. Will
diesel work as good as karosene or doe’s the dye in diesel stop the
talcum from showing cracks Thanks
Robert Barclay
Robert, an alternative to polishing the hubs is to spray them flat or
satin
black, then they disappear from view when wires are on and it looks like
the
car is floating on the wheels. :]
It’s entirely up to him Fazal! Far from me to influence anyone’s color
taste. :]
By the way, what do you Aussies think of one of your cheap wine brand called
Didgeridoo? (serious question)–
Alex
79xj6L SII (BRG + wires)
86xj6 SIII (Black)
61 Sprite MkII (Red)
Menlo Park, Calif.
Fazal Cader wrote:
‘Satin Black’? As Jack Warner would say ’ I’m getting that deja-vu feeling
all over again’!
So tell me, Alex, which parts does he put the yellow on?
In reply to a message from Cannara sent Sat 27 Nov 2004:
Alex not a bad idea the polished hubs might not look that well
against the wires.Black would set the wheels off better.Thanks
I down loaded a pic of your xj awhile back I like the way the 225’s
fill the wheel wells,but as my car came with almost new tires it
will be awhile before I get a bigger set.
Robert–
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black, then they disappear from view when wires are on and it looks like the
car is floating on the wheels. :]
Robert, glad you like the 225s too, but you may want to buy and try one to be
sure it’ll fit the front of the S3 – the front hub position on our S3 is
enough farther rearward on ours so the S2’s 225/70s rub. Of course, if they
do fit, you may want to buy and store a set, because 70-series tires are
disappearing in many sizes!–
Alex
79xj6L SII (BRG + wires)
86xj6 SIII (Black)
61 Sprite MkII (Red)
Menlo Park, Calif.
Jaggid wrote:
In reply to a message from Cannara sent Sat 27 Nov 2004:
Alex not a bad idea the polished hubs might not look that well
against the wires.Black would set the wheels off better.Thanks
I down loaded a pic of your xj awhile back I like the way the 225’s
fill the wheel wells,but as my car came with almost new tires it
will be awhile before I get a bigger set.
Robert
Due to our wineries making up lots of ‘export labels’ I am unfamiliar with
that one. If you can tell me the area (eg, Hunter Valley, Margaret River,
Barossa) and the winery/producer, I can attempt a response.
Fazal, the bottle says So. Eastern Australia and they have a website: www.Didgeridoo.com of course! Also, what do you think of Yellowtail?
I don’t mean painting the rear of a Jag yellow, but the wine. :]–
Alex
79xj6L SII (BRG + wires)
86xj6 SIII (Black)
61 Sprite MkII (Red)
Menlo Park, Calif.
Fazal Cader wrote:
Due to our wineries making up lots of ‘export labels’ I am unfamiliar with
that one. If you can tell me the area (eg, Hunter Valley, Margaret River,
Barossa) and the winery/producer, I can attempt a response.
