[xj] S-1 separating the torque converter from the flywheel

All:

I have the engine and transmission out of the car. I removed the gearbox and
the bell housing so I now have the torque converter and flywheel exposed and
hanging from the back of the engine. I removed four 5/8" bolts holding the
T/C to the flywheel working in the hole left by removal of the starter…

I want to remove the T/C. If I grasp the T/C I can rotate it left or right
about 5 degrees either way so. I assume that means it’s no longer attached
to the flywheel. However, I can’t pull it off. Does the T/C simply slide
off the shaft? The shop manual talks about removing four “setscrews” but I
don’t see them.

I was wondering if I could lever it off? In a archives post, John Testrake
said to pull it off “true.”

Is John still a member?

Regards
Lou
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G’day Lou,

At the front centre of the torque converter there is a projection which fits
into a recess in the rear of the crankshaft, this quite often corrodes and
requires some effort to separate. The four setscrews are the four bolts you
have already removed, there shouldn’t be anything stopping you removing the
t/c apart from rust. See if you can squirt some WD40 down there and give it
another go.

Regards,
Jeff Watson.
Sydney, Oz.Subject: [xj] S-1 separating the torque converter from the flywheel

All:

I have the engine and transmission out of the car. I removed the gearbox
and
the bell housing so I now have the torque converter and flywheel exposed
and
hanging from the back of the engine. I removed four 5/8" bolts holding
the
T/C to the flywheel working in the hole left by removal of the starter…

I want to remove the T/C. If I grasp the T/C I can rotate it left or
right
about 5 degrees either way so. I assume that means it’s no longer
attached
to the flywheel. However, I can’t pull it off. Does the T/C simply slide
off the shaft? The shop manual talks about removing four “setscrews” but
I
don’t see them.

I was wondering if I could lever it off? In a archives post, John
Testrake
said to pull it off “true.”

Is John still a member?

Regards
Lou
71 XJ6

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Lou,

What Jeff said is all you need to know about this. What is mentioned
below about removing it “true” is that you need to pull it off with
it centered as if it was still on the input shaft of the gearbox and
not at an angle.

Like Jeff said, you might squirt some lubricant (WD-40 is NOT a
lubricant) into the area where the T/C goes into the
flywheel/crankshaft area, then slowly work it off.

I have emailed with John in the last few months and believe that he
is still a member but is not as active as he was in the past.

Joe AOn 18 Sep 2005 at 7:17, Lou Danzico wrote:

All:

I have the engine and transmission out of the car. I removed the
gearbox and the bell housing so I now have the torque converter and
flywheel exposed and hanging from the back of the engine.

I was wondering if I could lever it off? In a archives post, John
Testrake said to pull it off “true.”

Is John still a member?

Regards
Lou

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Jeff Watson and Joe:

Thanks for the information. Right now there’s a shart sticking out of the
torque converter. It’s a machined tube about 1 1/2" in diameter with two
large slots cut at the end, 180 degrees from one another. I assume this
comes out with the converter?

On a related subject, when I pulld the gearbox out of the converter, the
splined hub looked like it had just been made yesterday; clean, bright
machined metal. A total contrast to the exteior of the earbox which is
covered in road dirt. More amazing becuase the car has not run in at least
10 and perhpas as much as 20 years. I thought “The last time somebody saw
that shaft was 34 years ago”.

I put a layer of moly grease on it and covered it with a quart size plastic
bag to keep it clean.

Regards
Lou
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From: “Joe Abrahamson” joeaksa@attglobal.net
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Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: [xj] S-1 separating the torque converter from the flywheel

Lou,

What Jeff said is all you need to know about this. What is mentioned
below about removing it “true” is that you need to pull it off with
it centered as if it was still on the input shaft of the gearbox and
not at an angle.

Like Jeff said, you might squirt some lubricant (WD-40 is NOT a
lubricant) into the area where the T/C goes into the
flywheel/crankshaft area, then slowly work it off.

I have emailed with John in the last few months and believe that he
is still a member but is not as active as he was in the past.

Joe A

On 18 Sep 2005 at 7:17, Lou Danzico wrote:

All:

I have the engine and transmission out of the car. I removed the
gearbox and the bell housing so I now have the torque converter and
flywheel exposed and hanging from the back of the engine.

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Lou,

The shaft with the two tongues on it is what goes into the gearbox.
That is inside a seal so it should stay nice and clean. This is
attached to and part of the torque converter.

When I removed the T/C from my XJ, it had been sitting over 20 years
and looked the same as yours did.

JoeOn 18 Sep 2005 at 13:46, Lou Danzico wrote:

Jeff Watson and Joe:

Thanks for the information. Right now there’s a shart sticking out of
the torque converter. It’s a machined tube about 1 1/2" in diameter
with two large slots cut at the end, 180 degrees from one another. I
assume this comes out with the converter?

On a related subject, when I pulld the gearbox out of the converter,
the splined hub looked like it had just been made yesterday; clean,
bright machined metal. A total contrast to the exteior of the earbox
which is covered in road dirt. More amazing becuase the car has not
run in at least 10 and perhpas as much as 20 years. I thought “The
last time somebody saw that shaft was 34 years ago”.

I put a layer of moly grease on it and covered it with a quart size
plastic bag to keep it clean.

Regards
Lou
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In reply to a message from Joe Abrahamson sent Sun 18 Sep 2005:

Hey Joe the WD40 I use is a lubricant amongst other things
also good for freeing seized/corroded parts.–
The original message included these comments:

Like Jeff said, you might squirt some lubricant (WD-40 is NOT a
lubricant) into the area where the T/C goes into the


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Keith,

They want you to believe that it will do everything from make your
hair grow back (did not work with me!) to cure cancer, but then they
are trying to sell WD-40.

The “WD” on the can stands for water displacement agent. It was
developed for the electrical industry to use in their products, and
it does a very good job. BTW, the 40 is the 40th forumula tried.

If anyone wants a lubricant, there are a lot better lubricants out
there on the market. WD-40 has done a very good job of making people
believe that their product will do everything and it just might. If
you need a water displacement agent its very good, otherwise buying
something made to lubricate will do a better job.

Did not know this either until going through aircraft mechanics
school. We were going to squirt some WD on something and the teacher
said “son, if you want to lubricate, get a lubricant. That stuff (WD)
is for the sparks chasers (electronics guys) and does not belong in
your toolbox” and I never forgot it!

Joe AOn 18 Sep 2005 at 21:56, Keith Turner wrote:

In reply to a message from Joe Abrahamson sent Sun 18 Sep 2005:

Hey Joe the WD40 I use is a lubricant amongst other things
also good for freeing seized/corroded parts.

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I use WD40 by the gallon…as a mild solvent. Yes, for a lubricant, try
something else. One trick: a squirt of WD40 before using an aerosol
lubricant of your choice helps the lube slither down into the nooks and
crannies of whatever mechanism you are working on.

Doug Dwyer
Longview, Washington USA
1987 Ser III XJ6
1988 XJS V12From: “Joe Abrahamson” joeaksa@attglobal.net

Did not know this either until going through aircraft mechanics
school. We were going to squirt some WD on something and the teacher
said “son, if you want to lubricate, get a lubricant. That stuff (WD)
is for the sparks chasers (electronics guys) and does not belong in
your toolbox” and I never forgot it!

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In reply to a message from Lou Danzico sent Sun 18 Sep 2005:

Hi Lou,
Jeff & Joe answered your question about your torque converter. I
think you just need a bigger hammer.

I’m still a list member, but simply don’t have the time to lurk on
the lists. How unfortunate for me but Chuck Renner notes when my
name comes up or when there is something of particular interest to
me and forwards the posts along. That’s a nice service for the
list administrator to provide, don’t you think?

I’m still active in the old car hobby. I’ve sold my ser3 but still
have the ser2 and a shop full of Lincolns.

Best regards to everyone.–
John Testrake St. Louis, USA 76XJ12L BRG/Biscuit
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John,

Good to see you back on the list. You are as well making a move in
the right direction. Now that the S3 is gone you have room to move to
getting a nice S1 XJ ! :slight_smile:

Take care,

JoeAOn 23 Sep 2005 at 18:41, John Testrake wrote:

In reply to a message from Lou Danzico sent Sun 18 Sep 2005:

I’m still a list member, but simply don’t have the time to lurk on the
lists. How unfortunate for me but Chuck Renner notes when my name
comes up or when there is something of particular interest to me and
forwards the posts along. That’s a nice service for the list
administrator to provide, don’t you think?

I’m still active in the old car hobby. I’ve sold my ser3 but still
have the ser2 and a shop full of Lincolns.

John Testrake

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