In reply to a message from XJRengineer sent Tue 1 Sep 2009:
Andy,
Didn’t mean to be so abrupt, nor did I mean to suggest that the
knock system didn’t work at all, but there are some serious
questions here involving potential engine damage. Even though you
had confidence in the system while you were there, there were
obviously those within the Jaguar organization who didn’t have full
confidence in it, and that’s why the AJ16 spark map was apparently
biased such that it wouldn’t normally use the knock detection
system as a buffer unless there were some abnormally bad fuel
present. So, unless some of the components in the knock detection
system have changed from the original production spec. sheet, those
factors which affected the judgement of those who had doubts, must
still be present. I don’t know what those factors may have been,
but you might.
Although a knock detection system may have been a new
implementation to Jaguar at that time, domestic USA and a number of
other foreign manufacturers have been using the technology since
the early to mid '80’s.
I’m a bit familiar with GM’s implementation of spark knock systems
and their Power Control Modules (PCM) which have a learning
capability over time. As I understand it, the PCM ignition map
starts with a baseline spark advance map and then slowly ramps up
the timing until a knock is sensed, it then backs off a number of
degrees before again beginning a time based spark advance till it
again hears a knock. It begins building a data base of the knock
occurance points as it repeats this process X number of times.
Over a period of time with the history in the data base, it
essentially builds somewhat of a ‘‘custom’’ ignition timing map for
the particular individual’s driving habits. The knock sensor
system is always present and functional, and if a more aggessive
driver jumps in the car, or a lower octane gas is used, or some
other factor starts causing a knock, it will still protect the
engine and begin remapping. This ‘‘custom’’ map remains in PCM
memory as long as it is not unpowered (battery power) for a maximum
time, for example 5 minutes. If it is unpowered for longer than
that, that ‘‘custom’’ map, or any others for other functions, are
lost and the whole process starts over again when it is repowered.
I don’t know how sophisticated the AJ16 ECU is with regards to
knock sensing, or just what it does when it senses a knock other
than it retards the timing. Perhaps you could enlighten us as to
just how it functions with regard to how much retard, for how long,
or is it a momentary retard with no time delay function. Does it
then slowly advance the spark timing again? Keep a history for
remapping, etc.? Inquiring minds would like to know.
Thanks!–
lockheed
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