This concerns my '83 XJS(Lump) IRS and associated bits.
Has anyone ever had a stub axle that refused to come out of the stub
axle carrier?
The RHS axle came right out of the carrier, with no effort whatsoever,
thinking this was going to be a piece of cake (that might have been the
curse right there) I moved to the LHS and now, after several days of
penetrating oil and a puller at maximum load(without bending the puller)
I still can’t get the carrier to give up the axle.
Also, on the other carrier, I removed the seal, bearing and race from
the carrier and drifted out the female portion of the spline (the part
that hosts the lug bolts). This particular piece has a bearing on the
interior portion of the shaft with no room to get a puller behind.
Needless to say, it won’t come off either (I’ll bet the other one slides
right off when I finally get at it). It does not appear as though any of
this has ever been apart (original lock wires) so I’m guessing rust as
opposed to Locktite.
A question about radius arm bushings, do I simply press the old bushings
out of the arm and press in new or does the radius arm come as a
complete assembly?
As always, any insights will be greatly appreciated.
It is nearly the 4th, maybe some well placed charges might do the trick.
TIA for your collective wisdom,
David Hunt
'83 XJS 350/350 (soon to be LT1/4L60E)
'78 XJS
Has anyone ever had a stub axle that refused to come out of the stub
axle carrier?
The RHS axle came right out of the carrier, with no effort whatsoever,
thinking this was going to be a piece of cake (that might have been the
curse right there) I moved to the LHS and now, after several days of
penetrating oil and a puller at maximum load(without bending the puller)
I still can’t get the carrier to give up the axle.
On my XK150, we tried every conventional and impact puller we could borrow,
but with no result. WE feared bending the hub applying any more force with
a two or three leg puller.
We then borrowed a genuine Jag hub puller from the dealer (made by
Churchill), and the hub came off without damage.
When I wanted the hubs removed from my e-type, I did not even try to do it
myself, but took the job to a local Jaguar specialist who has the Churchill
tool (or a close copy?). Even with that tool he struggled for hours with
one of them, apparently some are just very tight.
Also, on the other carrier, I removed the seal, bearing and race from
the carrier and drifted out the female portion of the spline (the part
that hosts the lug bolts). This particular piece has a bearing on the
interior portion of the shaft with no room to get a puller behind.
Needless to say, it won’t come off either (I’ll bet the other one slides
right off when I finally get at it).
On my e-type, one of the bearing races was tight, and was removed very
carefully with the aid of a grinder, hammer and chisel and chisel.
It does not appear as though any of
this has ever been apart (original lock wires) so I’m guessing rust as
opposed to Locktite.
I think it is highly likely that the factory used Locktite in these
applications.
David: Mine also came out very hard. I was told never to “pull” on the puller,
but tighten it up and strike the center bolt hard with a hammer. Then retighten,
strike again etc. I pounded on each side for a good 10 minutes before they came loose.
I never replaced the inside bearing - no advice there.
Richard Drozdowski
1992 XJSDate: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 22:20:33 -0700
From: David Hunt cuontv@bellsouth.net
Subject: [xj-s] Stub axle stuck
List,
This concerns my '83 XJS(Lump) IRS and associated bits.
Has anyone ever had a stub axle that refused to come out of the stub
axle carrier?
Still waiting for the carrier to give up the axle, 7 days and counting.
I have been turning the puller bolt as far as it will go everyday and
re-applying penetrating oil. I finally broke down and ordered a 12 ton
shop press. The press should be here in a week and if the axle hasn’t
popped by then, it will. I had been thinking about buying the press for
some time so this was a good excuse. As stuck as this is, I doubt the
Jag tool would have done the job.
I had considered adding some heat to the shaft but thought better of it
and decided to wait on the press. I’ll be real interested to see what
the splines look like when it finally comes apart, and it will come apart!
Thanks for the advice and encouragement.
I think I can, I think I can, I think I can.
David Hunt
Richard Drozdowski wrote:>
David: Mine also came out very hard. I was told never to “pull” on the puller,
but tighten it up and strike the center bolt hard with a hammer. Then retighten,
strike again etc. I pounded on each side for a good 10 minutes before they came loose.
I never replaced the inside bearing - no advice there.
I am working on the IRS of my 90 XJS. I can’t get the arms to release from the body. Can I somehow use a puller to get those off so I can drop the IRS with the axels, etc. complete.
I watch a tech at my long-time Jag shop, Britalia in Fullerton, CA (now gone) do this. As I recall, he used what looked like broad, blunt chisle, perhaps intended for masonry work. He put it between the top of the arm and the frame and gave it a couple hard whacks. Perhaps others here can confirm or deny.
I used a tool called a “rolling wedge”, made by Craftsman- p/no 0942892. I read about it on a web-site named "Jaguar Specialties.
Probably never use it again- but just in case…
Dave.
In the past I’ve used a “pickle fork” (normally for separating steering ball joints) for this sort of task. Or anything suitably stout and blunt, along with a BFH, to do the real work.
I had a Jag shop spend a day, a whole day, trying to get one of mine off the car after a bearing had shattered while driving, even sent it off to a hydraulic press shop and the owner of the shop tried everything to get the unit apart, eventually a 150ton press was used and crushed it - ended up buying an entire ‘new’ assembly at great cost. If it don’t go might be better to buy another and service/renew it correctly before dropping in but that is the final option as far as I know.