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Greetings, I own a 71xj…this message is to test for correct text format.

“Craig Sawyers” <@Craig_Sawyers1>

tonygull@ozemail.com.au
On my Daimler if you push the window switches DOWN the window
goes UP and vica-versa.

Is this correct?

No. Quoting the Driver’s Handbook:

“To lower a window, press the bottom or front of the appropriate
switch…
To raise the window, press the top or rear of the switch.
To open the sunroof, press and hold down the rear of the switch…
To close, press and hold down the front of the switch.”

So everything is as logical operation dictates.

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Roger <@Roger>
Tony wrote…

On my Daimler if you push the window switches DOWN the window goes UP and
vica-versa.
Certainly not logical, on both of mine UP is up and DOWN is down

I know how to wire them for opposite operation, which seems more ergonomic
that is button down=window down, button up=window up.
Why bother rewiring them, just pull the switch and turn it up the other
way. :slight_smile:

Cheers.
Roger.

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“Craig Sawyers” <@Craig_Sawyers1>

Roger rhomer@dragnet.com.au
Why bother rewiring them, just pull the switch and turn it up
the other
way. :slight_smile:

Nope - doesn’t work. The switch is symmetrical - so turning the switch
around achieves exactly nothing. The handedness comes from the way the
connector is. Unplug the connector, and turn it around is the only way
to reverse switch direction.

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“Craig Sawyers” <@Craig_Sawyers1>

Oh and the new Reply-To: modifications suck. In Netscape
mail, Reply to all
no longer includes everyone, just XJ@.

Cosmo, but why did you want to reply to both me, and a list to which I
am a member? I now have two identical copies of your message - which
is the needless message duplication I was trying to move away from.

Plus, on the odd occasion that it is wished to reply to the lister
personally, off list, I have added a “from” header to the message, so
the address is easy to cut and paste.

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“Dr Gregory Andrachuk” mgb@uvvm.uvic.ca
The proper way is: down is down, up is up. It seems odd at first for those
who are used to US style switches, but it has a logic all its own, or
Jaguar’s. Yours have been reversed.
Gregory-----Original Message-----
From: tonygull@ozemail.com.au tonygull@ozemail.com.au
To: xj@jag-lovers.org xj@jag-lovers.org
Date: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 4:37 AM
Subject: [xj] electric window switch direction

tonygull@ozemail.com.au
On my Daimler if you push the window switches DOWN the window goes UP and
vica-versa.

Is this correct?

I know how to wire them for opposite operation, which seems more ergonomic
that is button down=window down, button up=window up.

I discoverd they are wired this way on a spare switch panel, although i
dont know
which way they worked

regards tony

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“Mark Stephenson” <@Mark_Stephenson>
Ooooohhhhhhhh, that’s why that’s there. You are a genius! (And I am a
suck-up.) I thought it was so we wouldn’t have to add our footers at the end
and obscure your “remove” message. :slight_smile: If there is ever a vote, you have
mine for “Admin of the Year.”

That’s a really good idea. For aesthetics sake, any chance of instating a
line beneath it so it doesn’t sit right on top of the messages?

Mark “Idea (or irritating) Man” Stephenson----- Original Message -----
From: “Craig Sawyers” c.sawyers@tech-enterprise.co.uk
To: xj@jag-lovers.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 7:56 AM
Subject: RE: [xj] electric window switch direction

“Craig Sawyers” c.sawyers@tech-enterprise.co.uk

Oh and the new Reply-To: modifications suck. In Netscape
mail, Reply to all
no longer includes everyone, just XJ@.

Cosmo, but why did you want to reply to both me, and a list to which I
am a member? I now have two identical copies of your message - which
is the needless message duplication I was trying to move away from.

Plus, on the odd occasion that it is wished to reply to the lister
personally, off list, I have added a “from” header to the message, so
the address is easy to cut and paste.

Craig

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Cannara <@Cannara>
Note that the motor direction can easily be reversed by simply flipping the
two outer wires (as measured along the long direction of the switch). So, you
could arrange to have some go up as you have them, or down – could be a
conversation piece. {:o]

You can also change the direction of the main lock switching (SII only?) – I
personally like forward for “I want out” and backward for “protect me”…

Alex
79xj6L SII

Dr Gregory Andrachuk wrote:>

“Dr Gregory Andrachuk” mgb@uvvm.uvic.ca
The proper way is: down is down, up is up. It seems odd at first for those
who are used to US style switches, but it has a logic all its own, or
Jaguar’s. Yours have been reversed.
Gregory
-----Original Message-----
From: tonygull@ozemail.com.au tonygull@ozemail.com.au
To: xj@jag-lovers.org xj@jag-lovers.org
Date: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 4:37 AM
Subject: [xj] electric window switch direction

tonygull@ozemail.com.au
On my Daimler if you push the window switches DOWN the window goes UP and
vica-versa.

Is this correct?

I know how to wire them for opposite operation, which seems more ergonomic
that is button down=window down, button up=window up.

I discoverd they are wired this way on a spare switch panel, although i
dont know
which way they worked

regards tony

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“DOUGLAS DWYER” <@Doug_Dwyer>
Craig,
I believe the idea was to remove the switch and flip it around with wiring
still attached, thus “reversing” the upsy-downsy aspect of the switch.
(how’s that for high-tech jargon, huh ?) Of course your way really makes
most sense.
Doug

“Craig Sawyers” c.sawyers@tech-enterprise.co.uk

Roger rhomer@dragnet.com.au
Why bother rewiring them, just pull the switch and turn it up
the other
way. :slight_smile:

Nope - doesn’t work. The switch is symmetrical - so turning the switch
around achieves exactly nothing. The handedness comes from the way the
connector is. Unplug the connector, and turn it around is the only way
to reverse switch direction.

Craig

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“Craig Sawyers” <@Craig_Sawyers1>

“Mark Stephenson” marks@trnpa.com
For aesthetics sake, any chance of
instating a
line beneath it so it doesn’t sit right on top of the messages?

No sooner said than done!

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“Craig Sawyers” <@Craig_Sawyers1>

“DOUGLAS DWYER” DWYERD@email.msn.com
Craig,
I believe the idea was to remove the switch and flip it
around with wiring
still attached, thus “reversing” the upsy-downsy aspect of the switch.
(how’s that for high-tech jargon, huh ?) Of course your way
really makes
most sense.

I’ll buy pulling the switch and just turning it around with the wiring
connected - at least it doesn’t involve pulling the armrest and so
forth.

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@Jtestrake

I guess this has to do with whether the switch is on a vertical plane or a
horizontal. We have the same problem in airline cockpits. The switch should
energize forward if horizontal or up if vertical but confusion ensues when
the mounting is slanted like aircraft overhead panels or our own ski slopes.
John Testrake

In a message dated 4/12/00 12:42:44 PM Central Daylight Time,
mgb@UVVM.UVIC.CA writes:

<< “Dr Gregory Andrachuk” mgb@uvvm.uvic.ca
The proper way is: down is down, up is up. It seems odd at first for those
who are used to US style switches, but it has a logic all its own, or
Jaguar’s. Yours have been reversed.
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