[xj40] 4L80E pin-out

Hi.

Well as topic, does anyone have the pin-out on the connector on the
transmission, 4L80E -95.
I’m about to install a after market controller and of course the
connector is not a GM standard…

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In reply to a message from tobmag sent Sat 9 Feb 2013:

Hi Tobmag,

Knowing the model year of the Jag will speed up the research…

Don–
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Well as topic, does anyone have the pin-out on the connector on the
transmission, 4L80E -95.
I’m about to install a after market controller and of course the
connector is not a GM standard…


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Well I think I did put the year in? -95
I thought the 4L80E was only behind the V12?

I did find the wiring diagram anyway after spending an hour on
google…

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If you mean the 4L80E as used on the 1995 XJ-S V12, you can find the
info at Fig.27 of the Electrical Guide for the 1995 XJ-S 6.0 which you
can download from this site:
http://www.captainjaguarscathouse.com/Electrical_Reference.htm

Not sure why you posted to the XJ40 list as opposed to XJ-S or V12 :wink:

George Balthrop, Clifton, VA USA
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From: tobmag tobmag@yahoo.com

Well as topic, does anyone have the pin-out on the connector on the
transmission, 4L80E -95.
I’m about to install a after market controller and of course the
connector is not a GM standard…

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In reply to a message from tobmag sent Sat 9 Feb 2013:

Tobmag,

Glad you found the diagram online. I was willing to look it
up for you but since I have several XJ40 electrical manuals
I didn’t want to have to look through all of them to find
your 4L80E-95 connector pin-out. I didn’t recognize -95 as
the model year and couldn’t have guessed that your car is a
12-cylinder from your post.

We’re here to help one another, but in this case, better
your hour spent on this than mine. ;^)–
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Well I think I did put the year in? -95
I thought the 4L80E was only behind the V12?
I did find the wiring diagram anyway after spending an hour on
google…


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In reply to a message from Don B sent Sat 9 Feb 2013:

Perhaps my post was a bit cryptic, As far as I know the 4l80E is
only sitting behind the V12 so I didnt think about the model.

BR//Tobmag–
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the model year and couldn’t have guessed that your car is a
12-cylinder from your post.


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In reply to a message from tobmag sent Sun 10 Feb 2013:

And XJR6

Rob–
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Perhaps my post was a bit cryptic, As far as I know the 4l80E is
only sitting behind the V12 so I didnt think about the model.


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hello Jag fellows, though it is an old post but I’m still not able to find any information about the Jaguar V12 6.0L transmission pinout.
1993 - 1996 4L80E transmission.

Any info will be highly appreciated. Thanks!

Eehherr… you may have to map this out for us. What I can tell you it that it is a millspec type connector probably made by Deutch, and also used on ZF transmissions (the series) in europe - on Jag, BMW, and Rolls/Bently transmissions.

As on eBay PNs are: #1218161689 or JLM11339

Various service parts providers have these numbers for the harness in their parts list/guide:
34446J
35D-103J
34985J

Typically the connector is marked something like: “6 91 cdg bsa 56 14-9 sn 16 f 01” with “bsa 56 14-9 sn 16 f 01” being the consistant part for 4L80e’s. For ZFs there are some other varients. You’ll find similar references to similar numbers on BMW forums about their ZF trans connectors.

The other side uses a Raychem protective sleve marked: 202w203 on the rubber body

https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/TE-Connectivity-Raychem/224W201-25-0?qs=vURnJhrPxnR88fqcf8hFDA%3D%3D

The TCM is a GM Delco model similar to those used in Cadillac’s

The 12 pins of the Jag connector have almost certainly go to be analagous to those used on the GM connector:

http://www.msgpio.com/manuals/mshift/4L80E/4L80e.html

Basically you may be left with looking at the wire connectors on the inside / wire color, and testing for continuity to the pins to figure out the pinout. I’m sure there’s a PDF of that connector somewhere along with it’s pattern (probalby a 14 pin unit), but I can’t find it.

~Paul K.

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Paul thank you for the information.
I searched Deutch connectors and it seems this 12 pin not in their standard catalog.
I am not able to find anywhere the pinout and where the numbering starts on this male connector.
Another problem is where to find the female connector that’s on the car side. It seems no body is selling them new.
regarding the TCM I will be trying to implement a Speeduino based controller.
The whole idea is to install a 6.0 V12 with its 4L60E transmission in a S2 XJC V12. But now this connector is being a serious problem.

You know, IDK about the actual transmission pass-through casting area, but you might just be able to swap the internal harness for a typical GM one (if the hole is the same), then the connector is no problem ---- not as cool, but no problem.

~Paul K.

Thanks Paul, probably that’s the way to go…

here are pictures of the original female connector and the transmission side pins. it looks to me that this is a 14 pin connector with 2 pins being blanked.
CN02

This looks like a 22-19 amphenol connector.
Circular Connector, 97 Series, Straight Plug, 14 Contacts, Solder Socket, Threaded, 22-19

https://www.newark.com/amphenol-industrial/97-3106a-22-19p/circular-connector-plug-size-22/dp/92F5598

image

At least the pattern is getting closer to being ID’s even if that’s not the same plug.

EDIT:
*97-3106A-20-27P
Circular Connector, 97 Series, Straight Plug, 14 Contacts, Solder Pin, Threaded, 20-27

EH… 20-27 might be closer:
image

~Paul K.

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