[xj40] Daimler Double Six 6 litre

Hi guys,

Today I bought a BRG Daimler Double Six with 202K km. How many of
these were made?
It’s got some problems (as one would expect at the price I paid); the
main one being a “clonck” when braking a bit harder. It feels as if
the subframe’s tilting. I’ll try and put it on the lift this week to
see what’s actually going on, but any input will be appreciated.
The A/C needs a recharge and I’m going to replace the tatty interior
with the one from the green '94 XJ12 I broke for spares earlier this
year (too bad for the picnic tables;).
Is there a spec sheet for the XJ12 vs. Daimler DD6, as far as gadgets
are concerned? I always thought that the Daimler would be even more
full of toys, when in fact it’s not: it’s got a heated windscreen and
(working!) CD changer, but no electric dimming interior mirror (which
the '94 Jag XJ12 has). BTW is this an easy retrofit (I have a spare
one)?
Another thing is that this car (original Dutch) hasn’t got a
passenger airbag, where the 3 German cars I have (had) do. It’s not a
major issue to me (I hardly ever sit there anyway and I could even
retrofit one;), but I’m just curious.
Since it seems to be consuming less (!) fuel than my current daily
driver (a 1986 Series III 4.2) I may just hang on to it for awhile.

cheers,–
Arnoud

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The loud clonk on braking , if coming from the front end, can be the front
subframe mounts collapsing. They get worn out by the weight of the motor,
and can cause a loud noise when braking hard, but dont make any noise under
light braking.

I had my mechanic do mine, but shouldnt take too much work. Note that these
are not the subframe bushings, which are an entirely different animal. I
didnt do the job myself but my mechanic showed me the parts diagram of the
bushings vs the mounts and said the mounts were a couple hour job, the
bushings were a major job requiring the removal of just about the entire
front suspension assembly. Once the mounts were done, the car braked
perfectly, with no noise.

Daniel
1994 XJ12
1995 XJS 4.0----- Original Message -----
From: “Arnoud” jaguar@se7en.nl
To: xj40@jag-lovers.org
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 4:40 PM
Subject: [xj40] Daimler Double Six 6 litre

Hi guys,

Today I bought a BRG Daimler Double Six with 202K km. How many of
these were made?
It’s got some problems (as one would expect at the price I paid); the
main one being a “clonck” when braking a bit harder. It feels as if
the subframe’s tilting. I’ll try and put it on the lift this week to
see what’s actually going on, but any input will be appreciated.
The A/C needs a recharge and I’m going to replace the tatty interior
with the one from the green '94 XJ12 I broke for spares earlier this
year (too bad for the picnic tables;).
Is there a spec sheet for the XJ12 vs. Daimler DD6, as far as gadgets
are concerned? I always thought that the Daimler would be even more
full of toys, when in fact it’s not: it’s got a heated windscreen and
(working!) CD changer, but no electric dimming interior mirror (which
the '94 Jag XJ12 has). BTW is this an easy retrofit (I have a spare
one)?
Another thing is that this car (original Dutch) hasn’t got a
passenger airbag, where the 3 German cars I have (had) do. It’s not a
major issue to me (I hardly ever sit there anyway and I could even
retrofit one;), but I’m just curious.
Since it seems to be consuming less (!) fuel than my current daily
driver (a 1986 Series III 4.2) I may just hang on to it for awhile.

cheers,


Arnoud

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In reply to a message from Daniel Arsenault sent Tue 28 Dec 2004:

Hi the clunking probably comes from the front cross member rear
bushing, its a bitch to replace, but the engine dont sit on the car
frame it sits on the subframe. cheers Pajtas–
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The loud clonk on braking , if coming from the front end, can be the front
subframe mounts collapsing. They get worn out by the weight of the motor,
and can cause a loud noise when braking hard, but dont make any noise under
light braking.


jaguarjoe 54 XK 120 rdstr 1961 MKIX 94 XJ6
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In a message dated 12/27/2004 10:37:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, “pajtas” jagjoe@smart.net writes:

In reply to a message from Daniel Arsenault sent Tue 28 Dec 2004:

Hi the clunking probably comes from the front cross member rear
bushing, its a bitch to replace, but the engine dont sit on the car
frame it sits on the subframe.

As I understood Dan’s post, he was saying the fact that the engine is mounted to the subframe causes the subframe mounting rubbers to deteriorate (by virtue of the weight of the V12 engine).

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Arnoud
Quality car !!

Firstly, about 980 DD6 cars were made and approx 3800 in Jaguar format as
far as I am aware. I have not seen any official numbers however.
The 2nd airbag was fitted from '94 on, the '93 did not have one
Similar with the dipping miror. Retrofit is not easy as the loom is not in
the roof lining waiting for the mirror to be connected .
Othewise, they are pretty much the same car.
Daimlers had powerloc diffs fitted as standard and the fixtures used
(leather, veneer etc) were of a higher quality)
Obviously the Daimler also had the superior seating fitted with the picni
tables and individual rear seats etc

Phil
('93 DD6)

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From: Arnoud jaguar@se7en.nl
To: xj40@jag-lovers.org
Subject: [xj40] Daimler Double Six 6 litre
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 01:40:15 +0100

Hi guys,

Today I bought a BRG Daimler Double Six with 202K km. How many of these
were made?
It’s got some problems (as one would expect at the price I paid); the main
one being a “clonck” when braking a bit harder. It feels as if the
subframe’s tilting. I’ll try and put it on the lift this week to see what’s
actually going on, but any input will be appreciated.
The A/C needs a recharge and I’m going to replace the tatty interior with
the one from the green '94 XJ12 I broke for spares earlier this year (too
bad for the picnic tables;).
Is there a spec sheet for the XJ12 vs. Daimler DD6, as far as gadgets are
concerned? I always thought that the Daimler would be even more full of
toys, when in fact it’s not: it’s got a heated windscreen and (working!) CD
changer, but no electric dimming interior mirror (which the '94 Jag XJ12
has). BTW is this an easy retrofit (I have a spare one)?
Another thing is that this car (original Dutch) hasn’t got a passenger
airbag, where the 3 German cars I have (had) do. It’s not a major issue to
me (I hardly ever sit there anyway and I could even retrofit one;), but I’m
just curious.
Since it seems to be consuming less (!) fuel than my current daily driver
(a 1986 Series III 4.2) I may just hang on to it for awhile.

cheers,


Arnoud

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Hi Phil,

Arnoud
Quality car !!

thanks:) I’d like to think so, although I’ve seen a few that were
already under heavy attack by the rustbug. This one has the familiar
spot around the filler cap and I’ll be sure to check the inner
fenders…

Firstly, about 980 DD6 cars were made and approx 3800 in Jaguar
format as far as I am aware. I have not seen any official numbers
however.

that few? Wow; I’m about to break the 2nd XJ81 for spares (they keep
totalling 'em in Germany, so it’s not really my fault;)

The 2nd airbag was fitted from '94 on, the '93 did not have one

ok

Similar with the dipping miror. Retrofit is not easy as the loom is
not in the roof lining waiting for the mirror to be connected .

It ws a nice thought…

Othewise, they are pretty much the same car.
Daimlers had powerloc diffs fitted as standard and the fixtures used
(leather, veneer etc) were of a higher quality)
Obviously the Daimler also had the superior seating fitted with the
picni tables and individual rear seats etc.

It’s probably in the manual, but on the first drive ever (in the dark
of course) I couldn’t find the lumbar support button; where is that?

in all I think it’ll complement my Ser I DD6 quite nicely:) Right
now it’s parked bum-to-bum with a client’s Ser III DD6, so it must
feel right at home;)–
Arnoud

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In reply to a message from Arnoud sent Tue 28 Dec 2004:

the Daimler DOuble Six XJ40 1,102 6.0 litre long wheelbase 101 and
50 Majestics were made Jaguar 6.0litre 1,565–
Vaughnt
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ok, I have been hearing about the DD6 since joining the list, but I don’t
think I have ever seen one. Does anyone have any pictures they care to
share?

Jenni

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Hi Jenni,

Richard has sent me some off list from his (very nice) car. Maybe he’ll share?
I’ll take some of mine tomorrow and stick 'em on the snaps page.>ok, I have been hearing about the DD6 since joining the list, but I don’t

think I have ever seen one. Does anyone have any pictures they care to
share?

Jenni


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You will never see one most likely, living as you do in the US. Its a UK
only model. Basically its an XJ12, but with a fluted grill and tail plinth.
Otherwise, the options you will find on a US XJ12 are the same as you will
find on a UK DD6. Come to the next San Diego Jaguar club show and you should
see a couple of XJ12s, there were three at this years Temecula show and 2 at
the SDJC.

If you want some pictures of an XJ12 let me know, I have hundreds…

Daniel
1994 XJ12
1995 XJS 4.0----- Original Message -----
From: “Jenni Kirby” c.jkirby@cox.net
To: info@xjjaguar.co.uk; jaguar@se7en.nl; xj40@jag-lovers.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [xj40] Daimler Double Six 6 litre

ok, I have been hearing about the DD6 since joining the list, but I don’t
think I have ever seen one. Does anyone have any pictures they care to
share?

Jenni

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Hi Jenny et all,

pictures of the car can be admired at:
http://www.jag-lovers.org/v.htm?1104624915--
Arnoud

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In reply to a message from Vaughnt sent Wed 29 Dec 2004:

Is it to you known if there is a difference between a lwb
and majestic lwb?

Regards,

Martijn

martijn.bayens@gmail.com–
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the Daimler DOuble Six XJ40 1,102 6.0 litre long wheelbase 101 and
50 Majestics were made Jaguar 6.0litre 1,565


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In reply to a message from jaggie sent Wed 19 Oct 2005:

I didn’t think that there was a long wheelbase (LWB) version of the
XJ40 ???

I understood that the LWB bodyshell was only introduced for the
X300 in 1996.
I don’t know the overall length of that model - anyone know?

The XJ40 XJ6 and XJ12 are 4988 mm overall length.

In comparison, the XJ40 Daimler Majestic had a raised roofline by
50 mm and an increase in overall length of 125 mm to a total of
5113 mm.–
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Is it to you known if there is a difference between a lwb
and majestic lwb?


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In reply to a message from Bryan N sent Wed 19 Oct 2005:

LWB xj40

I have two factory brochures. One of a xj40 majestic.
Another brochure of 1994 shows also the majestic option. In
this one is a silhouhet picture from aside to show the
difference with the normal wheelbase.

Altough it says it is a majestic I can clearly see
differences with the side view in the majestic brochure. For
instance it has no raised roof and the back screen has the
same normal slope as a normal xj40. On a majestic is a
steaper back screen and hence 3cm less tall. I can send
anyone pictures to show.

Is this perhaps just a picture special made for the brochure
or are there indeed lwb xj40 without a raised roof.

On a majestic the raised roof makes the smooth lines of the
Jaguar disappear. It would be great to have a normal LWB
xj40 if the excist.–
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In reply to a message from Bryan N sent Wed 19 Oct 2005:

LWB xj40

I have two factory brochures. One of a xj40 majestic.
Another brochure of 1994 shows also the majestic option. In
this one is a silhouhet picture from aside to show the
difference with the normal wheelbase.

Altough it says it is a majestic I can clearly see
differences with the side view in the majestic brochure. For
instance it has no raised roof and the back screen has the
same normal slope as a normal xj40. On a majestic is a
steaper back screen and hence 3cm less tall. I can send
anyone pictures to show.

Is this perhaps just a picture special made for the brochure
or are there indeed lwb xj40 without a raised roof.

On a majestic the raised roof makes the smooth lines of the
Jaguar disappear. It would be great to have a normal LWB
xj40 if the excist.–
The original message included these comments:

The XJ40 XJ6 and XJ12 are 4988 mm overall length.
In comparison, the XJ40 Daimler Majestic had a raised roofline by

Is it to you known if there is a difference between a lwb
and majestic lwb?


jaggie
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