I’ve had some oil leakage at the bottom of the car and I
think I’ve found the culprit. The gasket and oil rings at
the oil filter housing look very oil covered. Has anyone
change these on the XJ40? If I remember changing them on my
SIII wasn’t fun.–
John John
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John,
Make sure you do not have TWO rubber gaskets/o-rings there. Have had that
happen to me one time.Took me a long time to figure out that one must have
really got stuck on the filter housing (which is what happened). I finally
wiped the last little oil off the floor after scraping off that second
o-ring/gasket.
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From: “John John” js4453@att.net
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Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 11:38 AM
Subject: [xj40] O rings at oil filter housing
I’ve had some oil leakage at the bottom of the car and I
think I’ve found the culprit. The gasket and oil rings at
the oil filter housing look very oil covered. Has anyone
change these on the XJ40? If I remember changing them on my
SIII wasn’t fun.John John
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In reply to a message from drifter sent Sun 21 Dec 2003:
John, I just replaced the o-rings for the oil cooler lines on
my '91. At least for now, the cat is no longer marking it’s
territory.
My old rings had gotten quite brittle. Biggest challange was
simply space, second challange was getting things clean. There’s
only one 13mm bolt that holds both pipe fittings on. From the
underside of the car, could see but no get a socket on it. Ended
up using a small 1/4’’ drive ratchet as I could not find any
combination of flex drive/extention and socket that I could get to
the bolt.
With the bolt off, each pipe simply pulls straight down. The o-
ring comes down with the fitting. Getting both hands to the
fitting to remove and replace the o-rings was a less than fun task.
Once the o-rings were on, one last swipe to get things re-cleaned,
a quick smear of oil and the fittings simply push back in.
Reinstall the bolt, retighten and I was done.
It’s not a really ugly job, but it did try my patience.–
Win Kemper – plain ole '91 XJ6 101K Miles
Tampa Fl, United States
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Win wrote:
I’ve found that it is easy to replace these o-rings from above, just remove
the air intake elbow and the oil filter, and you can do the whole job in
about 20 minutes, with just a screwdriver and a 13mm box-end wrench. Good
time to clean the throttle body while you’re in there…
Dave Lokensgard
'96 XJR
'90 Vanden Plas Majestic (DAVZCAT)
'55 XK140 OTS
Poway, California
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In reply to a message from Lokensgard sent Sun 21 Dec 2003:
Thanks for the input. Sounds about what I expected, a job
not to hard but some patience will be needed.–
John John
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In reply to a message from John John sent Sat 20 Dec 2003:
John John,
If you have not already done this task, Dave is quite right that it
is a very easy job to do from the topside of the car.
Additional advice that I would offer is to have the correct O-rings
in hand in advance. I pulled my pipes, and then tried to find O-
rings locally and, to my dismay, could not find any that were
really the right size. I wound up improvising some and a week later
it was leaking again.
Best to call one of the vendors and have the RIGHT ones on hand
unless you want to risk doing this twice.
Win Dooley
Fort Smith, Arkansas
89 Xj6
90 VDP
1993 xj12–
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In reply to a message from John John sent Mon 22 Dec 2003:
I replaced mine about a month ago, though I did it while I had the
rack out so I could access it easier. To say they will try your
patience is an understatement. There are recesses for them built
into the oil cooler tubes, so they cannot be slid off. You must
pry them out using a screwdriver or something if they are old and
hardened. This is not easy because you have no room to work. What
I ended up doing because mine were so incredibly hardened was using
a scraper (razor mounted on the end of a handle basically) and cut
the things in half to get them off. I spent almost as much time
fighting them as it took to swap the rack. Good luck.
Brett
89 XJ40–
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In reply to a message from wylde8 sent Tue 23 Dec 2003:
Dental instruments are really great for things like this and you
don’t risk damaging any other parts of the sealing faces.
It took me about 0.25 second to slice off my old o-rings.
You can find import cheapie copies of them at tools sales,
hamfests, etc., in all manner of styles, all very useful for many
tasks besides picking your teeth …
Win Dooley
Fort Smith, Arkansas
89 Xj6
90 VDP
1993 Xj12–
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into the oil cooler tubes, so they cannot be slid off. You must
pry them out using a screwdriver or something if they are old and
hardened. This is not easy because you have no room to work. What
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In reply to a message from Win Dooley sent Tue 23 Dec 2003:
I just finished this job on my '92 Sovereign with 151,437 miles. I
did it from above, removing the intake elbow and oil filter, and
squeezing my arms in around the throttle body. Screwdriver and
13mm box-end wrench, plus a strap wrench for removing the oil
filter.
First off, the O-Rings to get are CAC 5118, I got them from my
local dealer, who charged me 11.92 for four o-rings (Only needed
two, but didn’t want to make a second trip if I pinched one or two
and ruined them), including 6% sales tax. If looking for them
elsewhere, they are 20mm ID, 26mm OD, 3mm cross section.
From opening the hood to starting cleanup, the job took 1.5 hours.
I’m careful, but not obsessive, and I’ve taken off the intake and
throttle body once before, so I’m not a complete novice with this
car.
I used a sharp utility knife to pry under the o-rings, which
promptly cracked and came out. They were very brittle, and clearly
in need of replacement.
All in all, pretty simple job, just annoying to get into the tight
spaces.
Good luck,
Edward
'92 Sovereign–
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Teaneck, NJ, United States
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In reply to a message from Edward Crane sent Thu 28 Oct 2004:
26 X 20 X 3mm Viton O-rings are 10 for $8.30 from McMaster-Carr.
Viton will last forever. McM part #9263K267. I’m sure they’d have
the regular Buna-N jobbies too.
I wish I knew this last week!–
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and ruined them), including 6% sales tax. If looking for them
elsewhere, they are 20mm ID, 26mm OD, 3mm cross section.
–
Joe Bialy, ’ 87 XJ-S & '94 XJ-40
Grosse Ile, Michigan, United States
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I have a problem with an oil leak from what seems to be the bottom of the oil filter housing. The oil is NOT coming from the gasket between the filter and the housing. It is small leak but enough to make a little spot on the street if parked for an hour.
Having read everything mentioned above in this tread, it seems that I need to replace two O-rings. And that it should be done from above. I suppose the oil should be drained and the oil filter removed before this operation ?
The details.
The oil filter house is mounted on the left side of the engine (4.0S). The filter is mounted on the left side of the house. In the bottom of the oil filter housing, there is a bolt surrounded by what seems to be an internal pipe in the bottom of the house. The oil might come from this bolt. Does anyone now the function of this bolt ? Should it be removed ?
/Patrik
On the '94 you don’t have an oil cooler, just the “internal pipe” you describe. The bolt (nut) )secures this component to the block.
Inside there are 4 o-rings that can leak.
When you remove the bolt a small amount of oil will be released but there is no advantage or need to drain the oil before removing the component.
cheers
Larry
Larry,
Thanks very much for your quick answer. With pictures as well. It looks exactly like that in my car. It sounds very simple then. Just to open the bolt/nut and the lower part will come down i supose. And then just to replace the 4 O-rings.
So, final question then. The O-rings CAC-5118 on your picture. Where did you buy them ? Any webshop that do international sales ? (I live in Sweden) Would be nice with the correct ones that I know can handle the temperature. (Which not might be the case if I just buy any of the right size at the local hardware store.)
/Patrik
Do a google search with the part number, I think I only paid about $6 for the four (Rockauto?) no affil
9263K311 Might be the better fit. I’ve ordered both and will report back. I’d much prefer to use Viton here…
