XJ6 Cold Start Injector replacement equivalent?

The cold start injector/valve on my 1987 SIII is leaking, and there doesn’t seem to be any availability of an actual Jaguar replacement part. Is there a substitute from another manufacturer that people have used successfully that is actually available?

Thanks for any help.

It’s a bosch part; maybe you can find something close? (In displacement of course). Did you try cleaning?

David

Haven’t pulled it out, gas is bubbling out of the top. The Bosch equivalent doesn’t seem to be available either, I had looked for both online from every source I could try.

Oh, it’s leaking between plastic and metal! Then all you can do is find a used one; they’ll pop up (I have two clogged ones… not much good either)…

Thanks David, will keep my eyes open and search engine running!

Standard Motor Products CJ33 is a CSV but is listed for a Datsun 280 ZX.(should fit)
Standard Motor Products CJ50 is a Bosch part that might also work.
They seem to be around $60 to $70 US.

I have substituted many parts like this with good results when the original is too expensive or NLA.

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The Pre HE V12 used 2 x CSIs.I found that 1980s Volvos used a similar part. The angle of the hose was slightly different but slotting the flange mount holes let it move enough to fit.

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Thanks, will see if I can locate one!

Peter,
The Jaguar part number for the Cold Start Injector is EAC1383. They show up on eBay from time to time. If you get a used one on eBay make sure that the Seller has tested it to make sure that it works before you buy it.

Paul

Has anyone tried the CJ50 version? Looks the same, and is obtainable. I may give it a shot as a first try.

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What is actually the difference between the ordinary injector and the cold start one, Peter…?

Apart from the longer ‘on’ time when used, which possibly require higher coil resistance - they all do the same…?

Frank
xj6 85 Sov Europe (UK/NZ)
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The CSI is 12V. It has to mount somehow.
The CJ50 looks good!

The Bosch system was used on many different cars/engines. I suspect the various CSIs are calibrated a bit differently depending on engine size but I have doubts that it would make much real world difference. No matter which one you use it’ll give a big fat squirt of raw gas.

The engine will start without a CSI, at least in mild weather. Years ago I discovered a broken wire at my CSI, rendering it inoperative. I had no idea; never had a starting problem. But that was in the spring, rather then dead winter, so the CSI wouldn’t have been doing much anyway.

Cheers
DD

Mine is stuck closed (again) and today, freezing, it took 4 attempts and even produced a misfire. But it did start. So it’ll be fine if the injector was for a lower displacement; if the CJ50 made it into the 7 series, it’ll surely work.

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All car injectors operates at 12V, David…?

The difference between our ‘main’ injectors and the CSI is that the former is powered through the injector resistor pack - which reduce injector voltage and current. The injectors coil’s resistance is nominally 2,4 ohms and added some 6(?) ohms - reducing current to around 1,5A - or some 18W load…

The resistor’s purpose is described as ‘protecting the ECU in case of a injector short’. However, it may also ensure that the injector is not overheated by the high current due to the low injector coil resistance? About 5A - or a load of some 60W…

The CSI has no external resistor, so only the resistance in the coil restricts current. Bearing in mind that the CSI is meant to operate continuously for up to 8 seconds - while the other injectors are intermittent…

I quite agree with Dough; the difference between injectors is unlikely to be a hill of beans. Theoretically; the same injector may work well on different setups - an ‘ECU’ may control the amount of fuel delivered from a variety of other parameters…

In the case of ‘our’ CSI; one would need and injector;

  • that physically fits - including hose connection and electric connector.
  • has an internal resistance that matches the original (which is?)
  • works with around the nominal 36 psi

If the replacement resistance is very different - it may be ‘adjusted’ by adding an in-line resistor to prevent burn-out. Which may allow for using an standard xk - and indeed; a V12 CSI may be used if available…?

Frank
xj6 85 Sov Europe (UK/NZ)
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The part number for a Series III cold start injector is EAC1383 and it can be had at



David is a great guy! when I need hard to find stuff - he’s the first place I go. I can’t say enough good things about David.

Granted it’s not new, but it will work.

Hope this helps,
Mark

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walter