[xk] Bonnet lock release cable routing / fixing point

A quick question on bonnet lock release routing:

  • the cable comes out of the firewall just above the rhs of the
    gearbox and enters the wheel well via a hole in the fender
    valance.
    Question is: is it fixed anywhere between these two holes??

A photo would speak a thousand words…

Tadek–
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In reply to a message from ysmalkie sent Sun 14 Dec 2014:

Sorry - it’s xk120 I am talking about.–
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RHD and LHD route/fixing is different RHD is held on top of steering box
with clamp etc

RHD car my understanding it comes out of the hole in firewall and loops down
onto steering column and is held to it with a brass clamp (this is about 4
inches long 3/16 wide and has two loops at one end) the same type that holds
breather to LHD radiator support rod.
and then cable is held to top of steering box

LHD ??

I must admit I can’t just understand your note "enters the wheel well via a
hole in the fender "

I can forward pic of RHD setup but would love to see pic of which hole you
are reffering to

terryDate: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 11:01:47 -0800
From: “ysmalkie” tadeusz.malkiewicz@gmail.com
Subject: [xk] Bonnet lock release cable routing / fixing point

A quick question on bonnet lock release routing:

    • the cable comes out of the firewall just above the rhs of the
      gearbox and enters the wheel well via a hole in the fender
      valance.
      Question is: is it fixed anywhere between these two holes??

A photo would speak a thousand words…

Tadek


ysmalkie

In reply to a message from Terry Mcgrath sent Sun 14 Dec 2014:

Actually it seems to be more complicated:
BD.2954 CONTROL WIRE, RELEASING BONNET CATCH (COMPLETE)
C.2711 Clip, securing Control Wire x1
C.2735 Clip, securing Control Wire x1 (x2 for RH cars)

The C.2711 is the same clip as the Clip securing Speedometer
Cable to Clutch Housing Cover Plate. This is a plain P clip -
Mike, many thanks for help on this one.

The C.2735 is another clip that secures the cable under the
wing, I presume…

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In reply to a message from ysmalkie sent Sun 14 Dec 2014:

Tadek,
In your pictures I see the cable in IMGP7356.jpg coming
through the upper valence above the triangular wing brace.
And I think I see a push-through clip on IMGP7362.jpg
through 7364.jpg.
I’m not sure if I see the cable in 7414.jpg, it looks like
it might be looped up to catch another push-through clip at
the top of the valence before dipping down again to go
through the valence.
On 7143 you have a good shot of the cable passing through
your scuttle.
In 7337 there seems to be a clip dangling on the cable,
which I suspect should be attached somewhere under the rear
carb?
The cable ought to be attached somewhere between the scuttle
and valence so it doesn’t get up to any mischief.–
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In reply to a message from Rob Reilly sent Mon 15 Dec 2014:

I’m looking at your second spread of photos.

https://picasaweb.google.com/Volvo1800S/XK120OTSDisassembly

Excellent resource, BTW, thanks much.

Picture 375 shows the cable pretty well, with a clip that
seems to be intended to attach to a 5/16’’ screw somewhere.
If it wasn’t for that 5/16’’ x 5/8’’ long setscrew, nut and
washer listed with it in the parts catalogue, I would have
thought the clip attached to the rear carb flange.
Is there a hole in the lower valence that would work?

Pictures 471-477 show the front end routing.

I need to work this out on my own car as well.–
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In reply to a message from Rob Reilly sent Wed 17 Dec 2014:

Rob,

So far I have 2 reported locations:

  • at the front bolt on the rear air cleaner to carb flange
    (Paul Gavaza, xk120OTS '53),
  • choke starting pipe to manifold - front outer bolt of the 4
    bolts (Mike Balch, xk120OTS, '53)

My clip is definitely not correct one. Correct clip (according
to xk120 parts catalog) is the P-clip C2711 which is the same
as for the Speedometer Cable to Clutch housing clip.
The setscrew mentioned for the clip in Parts Catalogue is 5/16’’
UNF, 5/8’’ long. If this is the case, than both of the above
locations are incorrect - there would be no bolt needed…

Anyone else with exeptionaly original xk120??.. :slight_smile:

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In reply to a message from ysmalkie sent Wed 17 Dec 2014:

Here’s a vexed question.
What is the source of the identity of C.2711 as being a
P-clip? I was under the impression that P-clips were generic
parts in a number series like C1040/x or C1543/x.

Something seems amiss or obscure in the XK120 parts book.

If it is used on the XK120 clutch bell housing bottom cover
plate on page 18, logically it should have a 1/4’’ hole for
the screw.

If for the bonnet cable it goes on the starting carb flange,
a 1/4’’ screw hole makes sense.

If it goes on the air cleaner to carb stub flange, a 5/16’’
screw hole makes sense. But a 5/8’’ long bolt as called for
on pages 56, 74, FHC18 & DHC7 does not make sense, and
anyway a 1’’ long bolt is called for on page 14E.

I looked through the Mark V and Mark VII parts books and did
not find C2711 used anywhere. It is not mentioned in the 140
book for either bonnet cable or speedo cable.

I begin to suspect a mistake in the 120 book. Can anyone
shed some light here?–
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In reply to a message from Rob Reilly sent Thu 18 Dec 2014:

Oh, I miss the Volvo part’s catalogues… Every single detail
was drawn and catalogued…

Maybe you are right. I assumed it’s a P-clip, as I have seen a
photo of the clip on Mike Balch’s car.

However, the more I think of it, the more I wander weather my
clip was not actually the correct one. Take a look at 2 photos
of my clips:

Speedometer cable Clip:
https://picasaweb.google.com/Volvo1800S/XK120OTSDisassembly#570
9624158630465522
and cleaned:
https://picasaweb.google.com/Volvo1800S/XK120OTSDisassemblyPart
2#5717588200212643922
Bonnet cable:
https://picasaweb.google.com/Volvo1800S/Xk120OTS#54775527320744
38146
and cleaned:
https://picasaweb.google.com/Volvo1800S/XK120OTSDisassemblyPart
2#5727262975678397314

The are EXACTLY same aluminum strips.

So, maybe this is actually the correct clip?? What a
coincidence it would be that someone would change both of these
clips on a 36k mile car??
Both were BTW loose, and not mounted, but both the gearbox and
the head were out of the car during it’s first years - I know
this for sure.

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In reply to a message from ysmalkie sent Fri 19 Dec 2014:

I should repost the links:
Speedometer cable Clip:
http://tinyurl.com/k78n59u
and cleaned:
http://tinyurl.com/kw7umnw

Bonnet cable:
http://tinyurl.com/q8lwjk8
and cleaned:
http://tinyurl.com/le9rr4x

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In reply to a message from ysmalkie sent Sun 14 Dec 2014:

Btw
In the picture of the rear carb linkages the bracket which
holds the long horizontal heater water pipe might be
wrong. I was told this bracket is longer and is shaped
like a Z so the rear end of that pipe is held more
underneath the intake manifold.–
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In reply to a message from John sent Fri 19 Dec 2014:

John,

I believe there were 2 versions of this pipe’s routing…

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Tadek,
Yes, there were 2 versions on the steel OTS, one for RHD cars and one for
LHD
cars. You have an LHD car, so bonnet lock release cable crosses engine bay
diagonally (under rear carburettor), leading from small hole above starter
solenoid switch on bulkhead to RH inner wing and then along RH inner wing,
fixed by two rubber sleeve Omega clips (C.1543) which also serve as fixing
points for
the capillary tube and RH horn cable, to the RH wing bracket. There the
cable leaves
engine bay trough the uppermost hole and leads down along the
RH front wing valance, where it is secured by a clip (C.2711, two small
loops). The cable
then crosses under the wing valance to the hook and striker assy for bonnet
catch.
In the area of the catch assembly the release cable is secured again by a
cable
clip (C.2735, tube type). There are no other clips used for the the
bonnet lock release cable routing on the steel LHD OTS.
Hope this helps.
Best regards
Urs Schmid

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To: xk@jag-lovers.org
Subject: Re: [xk] Bonnet lock release cable routing / fixing point

In reply to a message from John sent Fri 19 Dec 2014:

John,

I believe there were 2 versions of this pipe’s routing…

Tadek

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In reply to a message from Urs Schmid sent Sat 20 Dec 2014:

Hello Urs,

I have sent you an e-mail with some photos to clarify my question.
I hope it will get through spam filters…

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most pictures from this post seemed to have gone west
Part number C2711 looks like this

note from Tadek
BD.2954 CONTROL WIRE, RELEASING BONNET CATCH (COMPLETE)
C.2711 Clip, securing Control Wire x1
C.2735 Clip, securing Control Wire x1 (x2 for RH cars)

The C.2711 is the same clip as the Clip securing Speedometer
Cable to Clutch Housing Cover Plate.

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Tadek put all his wonderful pictures here:

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Terry,

I hate to say it, but are you sure?

I have done quite a lot of research, as I could not fint the C2711 clip.
My speedo cable and bonnet release cable had these aluminum strips:
Bonnet release cable:


and then the speedometer cable:


Side by side the two looked identical:

Then I got a photo from another lister:

and I came to the coclusion that the C2711 clip is simply a strip of aluminum…

The clip that you show looks like an e-type speedo clip C18128:

or maybe it’s a XK150 speedo clip C1543/7 ??

Tadek

I am no expert for sure but I do have a few of those aluminum strips that are rubber coated on the end where it wraps around the cable. I assume that these are the same as you are describing. They look the same as yours but have the rubber covering. Do you know exactly where or which bolt they are fastened to. I want to put them back where they belong. I have 3 total. I think one was on the filter housing possibly securing the wiring going to the oil level sensor directly below it. The other two I guess are for the speedo cable and hood release cable.

Jim,

Could you possibly take and post some photos please?

Tadek

The one by the filter housing was there when I took the engine apart so I was assuming that it went there. The others I found in the boxes of misc. parts. I did find one plain alloy strap that is the shorter version with no rubber end covering.