[xk] Good essay

Thanks Rick. The more I hear about this process the more it makes me wary
of starting, but start I must. Wish me luck!

Bob-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xk@jag-lovers.org [mailto:owner-xk@jag-lovers.org] On Behalf Of
holland-rick@juno.com
Sent: June 02, 2009 11:10 PM
To: xk@jag-lovers.org
Subject: Re: [xk] Another Door Question - XK120 FHC

Bob,

It’s my take on the 120 hinge (did a DHC) that you first need to
ascertain the possibility of removing the pivot pin from the box and arm.
If you can, the job is relatively smooth. If you can’t and the pin is
partially broken or “frozen” into the arm and defies removal the “box”
cannot be withdrawn.

Most of us have encountered frozen or broken pins of some sort and one of
the simplest ways seems be to actually saw through the arm and pin from
the outside at the hinge pillar before loosening the 8 bolts and nuts
holding the box in position. Sometimes the saw can be started on the pin
itself if the box is spread open with a suitable wedged tool (bent with a
flat blade screw driver). Sometimes it is impossible to do this as the
pin although frozen in the arm still has both ends.

In these cases you can saw the “boss” on the arm, then on through the
pin. Once one end of the pin is off, the other side can be addressed.
After the arm is removed the box can be loosed (2 wrenches), first from
the hinge pillar then inside from cowling support channel. It is likely
that some of the fasteners are frozen too. It is often better to snap
(break) them with a good fitting set of six point wrenches than rounding
them. They are hard to get with a saw or grinder and too close to the
skin to burn.

The sawn arm boss can be trued after the pin stub is removed and shimmed
for reuse after the
box is removed and fixed. I made a pair of hinge boxes from “scratch”
turning the stand offs on a large drill press with files and bending the
plate in a bench vise with the aid of a BFH. The most important
measurement focuses on the location of the pivot pin hole. If the pins
are not in their proper place the door won’t (can’t) be in it’s place
either. If you re-pin them or install bushings of any sort, don’t make
them too precise. IMHO, the hinge needs a little “slop” for latching and
to minimize strain (flexing) of the pillar or the door.

Regards,

Rick


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Bob,

Good “luck” with the hinge fix! I understand there are replacement boxes
on the market now, along with various pin and bushing schemes. You will
see its simplicity once one is out. The lower hinge is, IMHO the
hardest, as it is partially below sill level, and prone to rusting from
wet debris. Its position in “there” makes “wrenching” very limited.

Strive to get it out any way possible from the inside, as patching a
cutup wing is not as easy as it might seem.

Regards,

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I found on my 150 that with an assortment of common wrenches and extensions,
removing the 8 bolts is reasonably straight forward. That is with all the
upholstery panels out of the way. Come to think of it, I had the
ventilators out also. I believe one of the access paths was from the front
wheel well using every extension I could find for my socket.

The real problem is that the hinge pin bolt is most likely frozen to the
hinge arm instead of to the hinge box. What finally worked for me was to
weld a a couple more inches of bolt to the top of the hinge bolt for a
better wrench grip, then apply heat to the hinge arm from two directions
using what I had: a propane torch and a miniature oxy/acet torch.

Gene McGough
XK-150 FHC S834515DN
XJ6C II 1976----- Original Message -----
From: holland-rick@juno.com

Good “luck” with the hinge fix! I understand there are replacement boxes
on the market now, along with various pin and bushing schemes. You will
see its simplicity once one is out. The lower hinge is, IMHO the
hardest, as it is partially below sill level, and prone to rusting from
wet debris. Its position in “there” makes “wrenching” very limited.

Strive to get it out any way possible from the inside, as patching a
cutup wing is not as easy as it might seem.

Regards,

Rick

I did mine pretty much exactly as Rick described. Sawing through each pin
with a hack saw blade, 8 times. Then 32 bolts, most of which failed to break
and had to be cranked off one flat at a time. The whole job took about 16
hours.
I made little bosses and welded them on the boxes. Stainless steel bolts for
the new pins.
If I had to do it again, I would use a Sawzall on the hinge pins, and try a
right angle die grinder on the bolts.
Rob Reilly - 679187