[xk8] door window tinting

Hi there!

My wife just recently got a ticket, here in California, for
illegal window tint on the door windows of our 2000 XK8 coupe.

I know California has strict rules about after market window
tint.

It has never occurred to me that mine was other than factory
installed tint, because it is so mild.

Did the factory tint the door windows, even just a little bit?

If they did, I might have an argument against this ticket.

Thanks for your help!

Michael–
Michael Hunter:00 XK8, 90 XJ-S, 85 XJ6, all running, usually
Upper Lake, Ca 95485, United States
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In reply to a message from Big Michael sent Sun 1 Jun 2014:

Michael,

I think on any factory tint the actual glass is tinted during the
mfg process by the glass mfg. There is usually a series of numbers
either at the lower left or lower right of the glass that shows who
made the glass and another number (or name)which would indicate the
tint value in the glass. You could probably Google that number and
find the tint value, then check CA law and determine if it is
allowed. Aftermarket tints are a film applied to the interior side
of the glass.

For example, I have still in a box a set of rear door (barn door)
glass for my Chevy Suburban. It reads

Soft-Ray
Neutral
Safety Flo Lite
AS3 HBI 4 2
Laminated
DOT 35 M49

You can probably call any CA auto shop that replaces/sells window
glass and read them the numbers on your glass to determine if it is
ok for use in CA.

SD Faircloth–
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My wife just recently got a ticket, here in California, for
illegal window tint on the door windows of our 2000 XK8 coupe.
I know California has strict rules about after market window
tint.


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Jacksonville, Florida, United States
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In reply to a message from SD Faircloth sent Mon 2 Jun 2014:

Michael,

When I was in the buying process for my coupe’ I noticed the
drivers and passenger side windows had been tinted to match
the little rear windows behind the doors. In fact the
passenger tint was beginning to peel at the bottom a bit
from the little up/down movement at open/close. It had
apparently not been tucked down far enough at the bottom
during application. Point being here is the tint was applied
to the inner surface of the glass and not molded into the
glass itself during manufacture.

A condition of sale was the removal of that tint before
purchase which turned out to be a simple process at an auto
glass shop. They sprayed on some sort of solvent and minutes
later the tint was pulled off. Same solvent cleaned up the
glass surface and all was back to factory original. In this
case the PO had that tint applied at the same shop not the
dealer.

Currently the car has a slight factory tint in the
windscreen and door windows. The little rear windows are
quite dark which I believe is also factory original. There
is no evidence of additional tint having been applied.

It is my understanding of California (North American) law
that light and dark configuration is allowed because the
dark tint is behind the driver.

We have one other vehicle, a Chevrolet 4 door, which is USA
sold (Canadian assembled) and I know it is factory original.
The front 2 doors are light tint matching the windscreen and
the rear 2 doors are dark tint matching the rear window.

Take a look at your windows as SD suggests. Quite confident
the numbers/nomenclature in the corner will tell you or a
glass person all you need to know.–
The original message included these comments:

I think on any factory tint the actual glass is tinted during the
mfg process by the glass mfg. There is usually a series of numbers
either at the lower left or lower right of the glass that shows who
made the glass and another number (or name)which would indicate the
tint value in the glass. You could probably Google that number and
find the tint value, then check CA law and determine if it is
allowed. Aftermarket tints are a film applied to the interior side
of the glass.
You can probably call any CA auto shop that replaces/sells window
glass and read them the numbers on your glass to determine if it is
ok for use in CA.


Gordon S. Tompkins (2009 XK Coupe’)
Springville, CA, United States
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In reply to a message from Big Michael sent Sun 1 Jun 2014:

Michael,

To add another wee bit to my prior post. An aftermarket film
applied tint will almost always be cut and applied such that it
leaves a small margin around the outside edge of the window that is
not covered by the tint. Like maybe 1/4 to 1/2’’. If you see that,
it should be a dead giveaway that the tinting is aftermarket and
probably applied by a auto glass shop that does window tinting.
Most states have regs on the tint value as well as
reflectivity/mirror effect on what is allowed. The driver door
window and front passenger door window must be less or no tint,
while the rear door windows can be darker.

SD–
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Every Jaguar from the 80’s onward has had tinted glass all round, but the
tint is quite light.
Gordon: all the glass in the XK has the same tint; the rear side glass is
NOT different from the rest of the glass so on your car this too must have
an aftermarket film.

Gregory
Victoria, Canada-----Original Message-----
From: GSTompkins
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 6:42 AM
To: xk8@jag-lovers.org
Subject: Re: [xk8] door window tinting

In reply to a message from SD Faircloth sent Mon 2 Jun 2014:

Michael,

When I was in the buying process for my coupe’ I noticed the
drivers and passenger side windows had been tinted to match
the little rear windows behind the doors.

Currently the car has a slight factory tint in the
windscreen and door windows. The little rear windows are
quite dark which I believe is also factory original. There
is no evidence of additional tint having been applied.

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In reply to a message from Dr. Gregory Andrachuk sent Mon 2 Jun 2014:

Gregory,

Thanks for the update, always good to have better info. It
is probable that the rear windows are after-market tinted.
Will say it is a very good job with no apparent gaps,
bubbles or imperfections.–
The original message included these comments:

Every Jaguar from the 80’s onward has had tinted glass all round, but the
tint is quite light.
Gordon: all the glass in the XK has the same tint; the rear side glass is
NOT different from the rest of the glass so on your car this too must have
an aftermarket film.


Gordon S. Tompkins (2009 XK Coupe’)
Springville, CA, United States
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In reply to a message from Big Michael sent Sun 1 Jun 2014:

Sorry to hear about your misfortune. I have had tinting on
our last several sedans (current is 2012 Acura TL) but the
level of tinting I have always gone with is relatively mild
so no problems so far. I was considering getting the
windows on my XKR tinted but have never done so.

Time was not that long ago that having tinted windows or no
front license plate was not that much of a big deal here in
Kalifornia. In fact the only times you would get cited were
if you were being stopped for some other reason. However
these days they are desperate for any revenue ticky-tack
things are now fair game.

I doubt if you would have any luck fighting any potential
source of revenue for the State.

Doug
Los Angeles
2005 XKR–
The original message included these comments:

Hi there!
My wife just recently got a ticket, here in California, for
illegal window tint on the door windows of our 2000 XK8 coupe.
I know California has strict rules about after market window
tint.
It has never occurred to me that mine was other than factory
installed tint, because it is so mild.
Did the factory tint the door windows, even just a little bit?
If they did, I might have an argument against this ticket.
Thanks for your help!
Michael


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I am visiting in California and got the following citations:
Using both hands to eat rather than cutting food then putting fork in dominate hand to put food in mouth
Being hetero
Wearing out dated sun glasses
For not kowtowing to celebrities
For not being leftist
!9 other ridiculous things and of course too dark window tint.
Does the good weather in CA really justify how it is there ?