I plan to purchase (5, five) summer high performance tires
for south florida weather. The original tire size was
225/60/16.
I plan to install 236/55/16, … Will I receive a
deduction for the change in sizes?–
Inskip
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In JCNA Driven divisions there are no deductions when the substituted
tire has only a profile difference. The wheel diameter, however, must remain
as original at 16 inches.
In Champion divisions the tire size and profile must remain as originally
supplied by Jaguar, 225-60-16. Since the 1996 XJS is now over 15 years old,
a tire with a speed rating other than the original ZR such as a VR may be
substituted without deduction.
Hal Kritzman
Chief Judge, JCSNE
Member JCRC-----Original Message-----
From: Inskip
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 1:48 PM
To: concours@jag-lovers.org
Subject: [concours] Judging tire size on 1996 XJS
I plan to purchase (5, five) summer high performance tires
for south florida weather. The original tire size was
225/60/16.
I plan to install 236/55/16, … Will I receive a
deduction for the change in sizes?
–
Inskip
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Yes. You will receive a deduction. The tire appendix to the rule book
shows the 1996 XJS as being originally fitted with 225/60ZR16 tires. The
tire size must match that originally provided by Jaguar. The tire speed
rating must be equal or superior to the original. This is discussed in
Chapter 6, page 12 of the Rule Book. This is available on line under the
Concours tab at www.jcna.com.
J.P.(Pat) Harmon
Concours Committee Chairman-----Original Message-----
From: owner-concours@jag-lovers.org [mailto:owner-concours@jag-lovers.org]
On Behalf Of Inskip
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 1:48 PM
To: concours@jag-lovers.org
Subject: [concours] Judging tire size on 1996 XJS
I plan to purchase (5, five) summer high performance tires
for south florida weather. The original tire size was
225/60/16.
I plan to install 236/55/16, … Will I receive a deduction for the change
in sizes?
–
Inskip
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Rule Change as of the 2013 AGM:
Page VI-12, Section n.3
Tire Speed Ratings: Tires on Champion and Driven Division cars less than 15
years old must have original speed ratings or speed ratings equal to or
superior to the original. (see Appendix B).
1996 is, by my reckoning, 18 years ago so speed rating is a non-deductible
for this entrant.
Hal-----Original Message-----
From: jphar@bellsouth.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 2:35 PM
To: concours@jag-lovers.org
Subject: RE: [concours] Judging tire size on 1996 XJS
Yes. You will receive a deduction. The tire appendix to the rule book
shows the 1996 XJS as being originally fitted with 225/60ZR16 tires. The
tire size must match that originally provided by Jaguar. The tire speed
rating must be equal or superior to the original. This is discussed in
Chapter 6, page 12 of the Rule Book. This is available on line under the
Concours tab at www.jcna.com.
J.P.(Pat) Harmon
Concours Committee Chairman
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-concours@jag-lovers.org [mailto:owner-concours@jag-lovers.org]
On Behalf Of Inskip
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 1:48 PM
To: concours@jag-lovers.org
Subject: [concours] Judging tire size on 1996 XJS
I plan to purchase (5, five) summer high performance tires
for south florida weather. The original tire size was
225/60/16.
I plan to install 236/55/16, … Will I receive a deduction for the change
in sizes?
–
Inskip
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I believe the answer depends on whether the car is shown in Champion
Division or Driven Division.
If shown in Champion Division you should receive a deduction for the
non-standard tire sizes. If shown in Driven Division you should not
receive a deduction.
Regards,
Paul M. Novak
Chief Judge, San Diego Jaguar Club
Ramona, CA
P.M.Novak7@gmail.com-----Original Message-----
From: owner-concours@jag-lovers.org [mailto:owner-concours@jag-lovers.org]
On Behalf Of coinman1
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 12:39 PM
To: concours@jag-lovers.org
Subject: Re: [concours] Judging tire size on 1996 XJS
Rule Change as of the 2013 AGM:
Page VI-12, Section n.3
Tire Speed Ratings: Tires on Champion and Driven Division cars less than 15
years old must have original speed ratings or speed ratings equal to or
superior to the original. (see Appendix B).
1996 is, by my reckoning, 18 years ago so speed rating is a non-deductible
for this entrant.
Hal
-----Original Message-----
From: jphar@bellsouth.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 2:35 PM
To: concours@jag-lovers.org
Subject: RE: [concours] Judging tire size on 1996 XJS
Yes. You will receive a deduction. The tire appendix to the rule book
shows the 1996 XJS as being originally fitted with 225/60ZR16 tires. The
tire size must match that originally provided by Jaguar. The tire speed
rating must be equal or superior to the original. This is discussed in
Chapter 6, page 12 of the Rule Book. This is available on line under the
Concours tab at www.jcna.com.
J.P.(Pat) Harmon
Concours Committee Chairman
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-concours@jag-lovers.org [mailto:owner-concours@jag-lovers.org]
On Behalf Of Inskip
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 1:48 PM
To: concours@jag-lovers.org
Subject: [concours] Judging tire size on 1996 XJS
I plan to purchase (5, five) summer high performance tires
for south florida weather. The original tire size was
225/60/16.
I plan to install 236/55/16, … Will I receive a deduction for the change
in sizes?
–
Inskip
In reply to a message from Paul M. Novak sent Wed 18 Jun 2014:
Thank you for your responses. I will be entering the
auto in the Champion division.
It would seem if I must get the correct size and rating,
to not receive a deduction.
So, let me ask this…
What high performance, summer tire can be purchased for
the size 225/60/16?
I do not want an all-season tire if I able to choose.
Tire Rack has very small choice in that size, and the
tires they offer are not rated for a heavy car and wear
quickly. There is a large number of summer tires in the
225/55/16, but with concours deduction.–
Inskip
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Inskip,
I can help you on this list with what the JCNA Concours Rules Book says,
but I can’t tell you where to find the correct tires in today’s market
place.
What I have now on our 1990 XJ-S convertible won't be any help to you
because it has 15 inch wheels.
I recommend that you try posting your question about where to get the
tire size and speed rating that you want on the XJ-S list and see what
others with a 1996 XJS have purchased lately that meets your needs.
Entrant is download and read the entire JCNA Concours Rule Book from cover
to cover before the concours. I wish that all our Entrants were familiar
with the rules BEFORE concours day, but that is not what happens.
Good luck with your concours.
Regards,
Paul M. Novak
1990 Series III V12 Vanden Plas
1990 XJ-S Classic Collection convertible
1987 XJ6 Vanden Plas
1984 XJ6 Vanden Plas
1969 E-Type FHC
1957 MK VIII Saloon
Ramona, CA
P.M.Novak7@gmail.comFrom my perspective as a Chief Judge, the best thing you can do as an
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-concours@jag-lovers.org [mailto:owner-concours@jag-lovers.org]
On Behalf Of Inskip
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 10:19 AM
To: concours@jag-lovers.org
Subject: RE: [concours] Judging tire size on 1996 XJS
In reply to a message from Paul M. Novak sent Wed 18 Jun 2014:
Thank you for your responses. I will be entering the
auto in the Champion division.
It would seem if I must get the correct size and rating, to not receive a
deduction.
So, let me ask this…
What high performance, summer tire can be purchased for the size 225/60/16?
I do not want an all-season tire if I able to choose.
Tire Rack has very small choice in that size, and the tires they offer are
not rated for a heavy car and wear
quickly. There is a large number of summer tires in the
225/55/16, but with concours deduction.
–
Inskip
Inskip,
One more thing. I just noticed that your email below says “correct size
and rating”.
Because your 1996 XJS is greater than 15 years old, it does not require
the equivalent or greater tire speed rating.
What you need are radial tires that match the tire size in page 8 of
Appendix B of the 2014 Concours Rule book for your car (225/60R16).
Regards,
Paul M. Novak
1990 Series III V12 Vanden Plas
1990 XJ-S Classic Collection convertible
1987 XJ6 Vanden Plas
1984 XJ6 Vanden Plas
1969 E-Type FHC
1957 MK VIII Saloon
Ramona, CA
P.M.Novak7@gmail.com-----Original Message-----
From: owner-concours@jag-lovers.org [mailto:owner-concours@jag-lovers.org]
On Behalf Of Paul M. Novak
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 10:53 AM
To: concours@jag-lovers.org
Subject: RE: [concours] Judging tire size on 1996 XJS
Inskip,
I can help you on this list with what the JCNA Concours Rules Book says,
but I can’t tell you where to find the correct tires in today’s market
place.
What I have now on our 1990 XJ-S convertible won't be any help to you
because it has 15 inch wheels.
I recommend that you try posting your question about where to get the
tire size and speed rating that you want on the XJ-S list and see what
others with a 1996 XJS have purchased lately that meets your needs.
From my perspective as a Chief Judge, the best thing you can do as an
Entrant is download and read the entire JCNA Concours Rule Book from cover
to cover before the concours. I wish that all our Entrants were familiar
with the rules BEFORE concours day, but that is not what happens.
Good luck with your concours.
Regards,
Paul M. Novak
1990 Series III V12 Vanden Plas
1990 XJ-S Classic Collection convertible
1987 XJ6 Vanden Plas
1984 XJ6 Vanden Plas
1969 E-Type FHC
1957 MK VIII Saloon
Ramona, CA
P.M.Novak7@gmail.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-concours@jag-lovers.org [mailto:owner-concours@jag-lovers.org]
On Behalf Of Inskip
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 10:19 AM
To: concours@jag-lovers.org
Subject: RE: [concours] Judging tire size on 1996 XJS
In reply to a message from Paul M. Novak sent Wed 18 Jun 2014:
Thank you for your responses. I will be entering the
auto in the Champion division.
It would seem if I must get the correct size and rating, to not receive a
deduction.
So, let me ask this…
What high performance, summer tire can be purchased for the size 225/60/16?
I do not want an all-season tire if I able to choose.
Tire Rack has very small choice in that size, and the tires they offer are
not rated for a heavy car and wear
quickly. There is a large number of summer tires in the
225/55/16, but with concours deduction.
–
Inskip
Here is a possible tire for you to consider that is available at most PEP
Boys (no affiliation).
Michelin Defender 225-60R-16, 90,000 mile warranty, 4.9/5.0 customer rating
Part # 73391 SKU: 686095
Good looking tire which you can take well above legal speeds (T)
Good luck and happy Motoring
Hal-----Original Message-----
From: Paul M. Novak
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 2:18 PM
To: concours@jag-lovers.org
Subject: RE: [concours] Judging tire size on 1996 XJS
Inskip,
One more thing. I just noticed that your email below says “correct size
and rating”.
Because your 1996 XJS is greater than 15 years old, it does not require
the equivalent or greater tire speed rating.
What you need are radial tires that match the tire size in page 8 of
Appendix B of the 2014 Concours Rule book for your car (225/60R16).
Regards,
Paul M. Novak
1990 Series III V12 Vanden Plas
1990 XJ-S Classic Collection convertible
1987 XJ6 Vanden Plas
1984 XJ6 Vanden Plas
1969 E-Type FHC
1957 MK VIII Saloon
Ramona, CA
P.M.Novak7@gmail.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-concours@jag-lovers.org [mailto:owner-concours@jag-lovers.org]
On Behalf Of Paul M. Novak
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 10:53 AM
To: concours@jag-lovers.org
Subject: RE: [concours] Judging tire size on 1996 XJS
Inskip,
I can help you on this list with what the JCNA Concours Rules Book says,
but I can’t tell you where to find the correct tires in today’s market
place.
What I have now on our 1990 XJ-S convertible won't be any help to you
because it has 15 inch wheels.
I recommend that you try posting your question about where to get the
tire size and speed rating that you want on the XJ-S list and see what
others with a 1996 XJS have purchased lately that meets your needs.
From my perspective as a Chief Judge, the best thing you can do as an
Entrant is download and read the entire JCNA Concours Rule Book from cover
to cover before the concours. I wish that all our Entrants were familiar
with the rules BEFORE concours day, but that is not what happens.
Good luck with your concours.
Regards,
Paul M. Novak
1990 Series III V12 Vanden Plas
1990 XJ-S Classic Collection convertible
1987 XJ6 Vanden Plas
1984 XJ6 Vanden Plas
1969 E-Type FHC
1957 MK VIII Saloon
Ramona, CA
P.M.Novak7@gmail.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-concours@jag-lovers.org [mailto:owner-concours@jag-lovers.org]
On Behalf Of Inskip
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 10:19 AM
To: concours@jag-lovers.org
Subject: RE: [concours] Judging tire size on 1996 XJS
In reply to a message from Paul M. Novak sent Wed 18 Jun 2014:
Thank you for your responses. I will be entering the
auto in the Champion division.
It would seem if I must get the correct size and rating, to not receive a
deduction.
So, let me ask this…
What high performance, summer tire can be purchased for the size 225/60/16?
I do not want an all-season tire if I able to choose.
Tire Rack has very small choice in that size, and the tires they offer are
not rated for a heavy car and wear
quickly. There is a large number of summer tires in the
225/55/16, but with concours deduction.
–
Inskip
Inskip,
Whatever tires you get, purchase five and get them all mounted. In
Champion Division the spare tire and wheel are judged and there are sizeable
deductions if the spare tire or wheel doesn’t match the road wheels… This
is covered in chapter VI of the Concours Rule Book.
Regards,
Paul M. Novak
1990 Series III V12 Vanden Plas
1990 XJ-S Classic Collection convertible
1987 XJ6 Vanden Plas
1984 XJ6 Vanden Plas
1969 E-Type FHC
1957 MK VIII Saloon
Ramona, CA
P.M.Novak7@gmail.com-----Original Message-----
From: owner-concours@jag-lovers.org [mailto:owner-concours@jag-lovers.org]
On Behalf Of coinman1
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 12:00 PM
To: concours@jag-lovers.org
Subject: Re: [concours] Judging tire size on 1996 XJS
Importance: High
Here is a possible tire for you to consider that is available at most PEP
Boys (no affiliation).
Michelin Defender 225-60R-16, 90,000 mile warranty, 4.9/5.0 customer rating
Part # 73391 SKU: 686095
Good looking tire which you can take well above legal speeds (T) Good luck
and happy Motoring
Hal
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul M. Novak
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 2:18 PM
To: concours@jag-lovers.org
Subject: RE: [concours] Judging tire size on 1996 XJS
Inskip,
One more thing. I just noticed that your email below says “correct size
and rating”.
Because your 1996 XJS is greater than 15 years old, it does not require
the equivalent or greater tire speed rating.
What you need are radial tires that match the tire size in page 8 of
Appendix B of the 2014 Concours Rule book for your car (225/60R16).
Regards,
Paul M. Novak
1990 Series III V12 Vanden Plas
1990 XJ-S Classic Collection convertible
1987 XJ6 Vanden Plas
1984 XJ6 Vanden Plas
1969 E-Type FHC
1957 MK VIII Saloon
Ramona, CA
P.M.Novak7@gmail.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-concours@jag-lovers.org [mailto:owner-concours@jag-lovers.org]
On Behalf Of Paul M. Novak
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 10:53 AM
To: concours@jag-lovers.org
Subject: RE: [concours] Judging tire size on 1996 XJS
Inskip,
I can help you on this list with what the JCNA Concours Rules Book says,
but I can’t tell you where to find the correct tires in today’s market
place.
What I have now on our 1990 XJ-S convertible won't be any help to you
because it has 15 inch wheels.
I recommend that you try posting your question about where to get the
tire size and speed rating that you want on the XJ-S list and see what
others with a 1996 XJS have purchased lately that meets your needs.
From my perspective as a Chief Judge, the best thing you can do as an
Entrant is download and read the entire JCNA Concours Rule Book from cover
to cover before the concours. I wish that all our Entrants were familiar
with the rules BEFORE concours day, but that is not what happens.
Good luck with your concours.
Regards,
Paul M. Novak
1990 Series III V12 Vanden Plas
1990 XJ-S Classic Collection convertible
1987 XJ6 Vanden Plas
1984 XJ6 Vanden Plas
1969 E-Type FHC
1957 MK VIII Saloon
Ramona, CA
P.M.Novak7@gmail.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-concours@jag-lovers.org [mailto:owner-concours@jag-lovers.org]
On Behalf Of Inskip
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 10:19 AM
To: concours@jag-lovers.org
Subject: RE: [concours] Judging tire size on 1996 XJS
In reply to a message from Paul M. Novak sent Wed 18 Jun 2014:
Thank you for your responses. I will be entering the
auto in the Champion division.
It would seem if I must get the correct size and rating, to not receive a
deduction.
So, let me ask this…
What high performance, summer tire can be purchased for the size 225/60/16?
I do not want an all-season tire if I able to choose.
Tire Rack has very small choice in that size, and the tires they offer are
not rated for a heavy car and wear
quickly. There is a large number of summer tires in the
225/55/16, but with concours deduction.
–
Inskip
In reply to a message from Paul M. Novak sent Fri 20 Jun 2014:
PAUL… THANKS… I have become fully immersed in reading
the JCNA Concours rule book. And yes, thanks for
reminding me to also include the spare tire in my
purchasing decision.
I also started reading the XJ-S 1972-1991 judging guide.
I hope, that the facelift 1992-1996 models will have there
own judging guide.
And thanks Hal for the Michelin Defender 225-60R-
16,recommendation. It is a all-weather tire, and I was
looking for summer tires only.–
Inskip
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