[E-Type] Classic Car SPAM?

I have received two pieces of spam related to classic
cars recently, most recently from Jeff Lilly Restoration
in San Antonio. While I do a number of web sites, none is
specifically associated with Classic Cars. The only
connection I can figure is this list.

Has anybody else gotten recent spam from Jeff Lilly
or other Classic Car outfits?

Jerry Mouton mailto:@mouton Laissez les bons temps
rouler!

I recieved the following this morning, note the
address line???:
Michael Spiers

Reply-to:
“Alan Skelton, CEO, Collectors Car Auction”
AlanSkelton@collectorscarauction.com
From:
“Alan Skelton, CEO, Collectors Car Auction”
AlanSkelton@collectorscarauction.com |
Block address
To:
1910@loved.fsnet.co.uk
Subject:
Collectors Car Auction special offer
Date:
Tue, 25 Apr 2000 22:59:52 +0100

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I hope you will forgive me writing to you like this
but I have often
seen
your advertisements and thought that our company could
be of service to
yourselves. You are one of the very first people we
have written to and
I
hope you will spare a moment to read of our services
and our special
offer
to you.

http://www.collectorscarauction.com

Collectors Car Auction is a new online auction for all
owners of
classic and
collectors cars. We specialise in just that, so you
will appreciate, if
you
have used online auctions before, there will be no
searching through
computers or beanie babies to find what you are
looking for!

We have several categories in which to list items for
auction and all
standard listings are FREE…

Books and magazines
Collectors Car Sales
Collectors Car Spares
Manuals and handbooks
Memorabilia
Models, diecasts and slot cars

There is a very reasonable charge on completion of the
auction, our
complete
fee structure is displayed on our site, but as an
idea, selling items with a final value up to �25.00
would incur a
charge of
5%, (�1.25), an item selling for �1000 costs just
�26.62 to sell,
that’s a
fraction over 2.5%. We have a very special price for
selling cars, a
flat
charge of just �25.00
(twenty-five pounds) no matter what the final sale
price, �1000 or
�100,000.

“So, what is the catch and what’s the offer?” I hear
you say.

Collectors Car Auction goes live on the 1st of May and
we know that no
auction can be a success without buyers,
but if there is nothing to sell there will be no
buyers! So we want as
much
to sell as possible! As such we are offering “trade”
customers a very special deal.

All items listed will be free of all charges, no
reserve charge, no
sale
charges, nothing until 1st August 2000. There
is no cheaper way of selling! Even if your item sells
after the August
1st
deadline there will be no charge providing
the listing was before that date.

Our standard offer for non-trade is described on the
linked page and so
you
will see the advantage!

Full details of how to list are on our site, it’s
easy, but if you have
any
queries just ask at the address above. You can sell
anything related to collectors and classic cars,
whether a perfectly
restored E-Type, that hard to find part for a Model T
Ford,
or memorabilia you have had sitting in your study
…so
give it a try!! You can even add photos of your items,
as
the saying goes, a picture speaks a thousand words!

This really is the easy and inexpensive place to buy
and sell all items
related to collectors and classic cars!!

Right now we are in the process of listing over 1000
items to provide a
start, from magazines and models at �5, to a 1928
Rolls Royce Phantom 1 starting at �30,000, why not
give us a try and
see
what happens; what have you got to lose?

Finally I would like to thank you for taking the time
to read this far
and
to say that if you have any queries, or wish not to
receive any further correspondence from us, please
email to the above
address.

Thank you
Alan Skelton
CEO, Collectors Car Auction.
http://collectorscarauction.com— Jerry Mouton jerry@moutons.org wrote:

I have received two pieces of spam related to
classic
cars recently, most recently from Jeff Lilly
Restoration
in San Antonio. While I do a number of web sites,
none is
specifically associated with Classic Cars. The only
connection I can figure is this list.

Has anybody else gotten recent spam from Jeff Lilly
or other Classic Car outfits?

Jerry Mouton mailto:jerry@moutons.org
Laissez les bons temps
rouler!


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Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites.
http://invites.yahoo.com

yes I got one of these too !

Pascal
Miami, FL----- Original Message -----
From: michael spiers michaelspiers@yahoo.com
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: [E-Type] Classic Car SPAM?

I recieved the following this morning, note the
address line???:
Michael Spiers

Ditto, dumped it to trash immediately! Knowing I haven’t advertised a car
since November it was a call to spam.

MT

At 08:52 AM 4/26/2000 -0700, you wrote:>I recieved the following this morning, note the

address line???:
Michael Spiers

Reply-to:
“Alan Skelton, CEO, Collectors Car Auction”
AlanSkelton@collectorscarauction.com
From:
“Alan Skelton, CEO, Collectors Car Auction”
AlanSkelton@collectorscarauction.com |
Block address
To:
1910@loved.fsnet.co.uk
Subject:
Collectors Car Auction special offer
Date:
Tue, 25 Apr 2000 22:59:52 +0100

                Add

          Addresses

I hope you will forgive me writing to you like this
but I have often
seen
your advertisements and thought that our company could
be of service to
yourselves. You are one of the very first people we
have written to and
I
hope you will spare a moment to read of our services
and our special
offer
to you.

http://www.collectorscarauction.com

Collectors Car Auction is a new online auction for all
owners of
classic and
collectors cars. We specialise in just that, so you
will appreciate, if
you
have used online auctions before, there will be no
searching through
computers or beanie babies to find what you are
looking for!

We have several categories in which to list items for
auction and all
standard listings are FREE…

Books and magazines
Collectors Car Sales
Collectors Car Spares
Manuals and handbooks
Memorabilia
Models, diecasts and slot cars

There is a very reasonable charge on completion of the
auction, our
complete
fee structure is displayed on our site, but as an
idea, selling items with a final value up to �25.00
would incur a
charge of
5%, (�1.25), an item selling for �1000 costs just
�26.62 to sell,
that’s a
fraction over 2.5%. We have a very special price for
selling cars, a
flat
charge of just �25.00
(twenty-five pounds) no matter what the final sale
price, �1000 or
�100,000.

“So, what is the catch and what’s the offer?” I hear
you say.

Collectors Car Auction goes live on the 1st of May and
we know that no
auction can be a success without buyers,
but if there is nothing to sell there will be no
buyers! So we want as
much
to sell as possible! As such we are offering “trade”
customers a very special deal.

All items listed will be free of all charges, no
reserve charge, no
sale
charges, nothing until 1st August 2000. There
is no cheaper way of selling! Even if your item sells
after the August
1st
deadline there will be no charge providing
the listing was before that date.

Our standard offer for non-trade is described on the
linked page and so
you
will see the advantage!

Full details of how to list are on our site, it’s
easy, but if you have
any
queries just ask at the address above. You can sell
anything related to collectors and classic cars,
whether a perfectly
restored E-Type, that hard to find part for a Model T
Ford,
or memorabilia you have had sitting in your study
…so
give it a try!! You can even add photos of your items,
as
the saying goes, a picture speaks a thousand words!

This really is the easy and inexpensive place to buy
and sell all items
related to collectors and classic cars!!

Right now we are in the process of listing over 1000
items to provide a
start, from magazines and models at �5, to a 1928
Rolls Royce Phantom 1 starting at �30,000, why not
give us a try and
see
what happens; what have you got to lose?

Finally I would like to thank you for taking the time
to read this far
and
to say that if you have any queries, or wish not to
receive any further correspondence from us, please
email to the above
address.

Thank you
Alan Skelton
CEO, Collectors Car Auction.
http://collectorscarauction.com

— Jerry Mouton jerry@moutons.org wrote:

I have received two pieces of spam related to
classic
cars recently, most recently from Jeff Lilly
Restoration
in San Antonio. While I do a number of web sites,
none is
specifically associated with Classic Cars. The only
connection I can figure is this list.

Has anybody else gotten recent spam from Jeff Lilly
or other Classic Car outfits?

Jerry Mouton mailto:jerry@moutons.org
Laissez les bons temps
rouler!


Do You Yahoo!?
Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites.
http://invites.yahoo.com

I have sent LARTS to listed parties.
Anmyone else who got this spam should do the same.
The spam originated in the Isles there.
The repeats on the tracerout means planet.net.uk has a misconfigured
router.

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I hope you will forgive me writing to you like this but I have often
seen
your advertisements and thought that our company could be of service to
yourselves.
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Thank you
Alan Skelton
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In a message dated 4/26/00 12:09:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
michaelspiers@yahoo.com writes:

I recieved the following this morning, note the
address line???:
Michael Spiers

Reply-to:
“Alan Skelton, CEO, Collectors Car Auction”
AlanSkelton@collectorscarauction.com

I, too.
Warren
Didn’t appreciate it a whole lot.

michael spiers wrote:

I recieved the following this morning, note the
address line???:
Michael Spiers

Reply-to:
“Alan Skelton, CEO, Collectors Car Auction”
AlanSkelton@collectorscarauction.com
From:
“Alan Skelton, CEO, Collectors Car Auction”
AlanSkelton@collectorscarauction.com |
Block address
To:
1910@loved.fsnet.co.uk
Subject:
Collectors Car Auction special offer
Date:
Tue, 25 Apr 2000 22:59:52 +0100

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I hope you will forgive me writing to you like this
but I have often
seen
your advertisements…

Yep, I got that one too. I can’t find that address on the su*bscribers
list but that doesn’t mean they aren’t there under some other address.

I was amused by the “I’ve seen your advertisements…” line. Huh?
Where?

I suspect someone is mining the archives or something.

If you take the digest version of this list, you will note a “Commercial
use of members addresses prohibited” at the end of each digest. I could
do this for the regular list too but it would get sent with each message
and I felt that it would just become annoying.

Just a reminder to any commercial folks on the list, you are welcome to
participate but in no way do we desire to have you use this list as a
way to reach “targeted” potential customers.

We will consider it SPAM and it will not be tolerated.

George Cohn
List Admin

I got same.

Tom-----Original Message-----
From: michael spiers michaelspiers@yahoo.com
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org e-type@jag-lovers.org
Date: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [E-Type] Classic Car SPAM?

I recieved the following this morning, note the
address line???:
Michael Spiers

Reply-to:
“Alan Skelton, CEO, Collectors Car Auction”
AlanSkelton@collectorscarauction.com
From:
“Alan Skelton, CEO, Collectors Car Auction”
AlanSkelton@collectorscarauction.com |
Block address
To:
1910@loved.fsnet.co.uk
Subject:
Collectors Car Auction special offer
Date:
Tue, 25 Apr 2000 22:59:52 +0100

                Add

          Addresses

I hope you will forgive me writing to you like this
but I have often
seen
your advertisements and thought that our company could
be of service to
yourselves. You are one of the very first people we
have written to and
I
hope you will spare a moment to read of our services
and our special
offer
to you.

http://www.collectorscarauction.com

Collectors Car Auction is a new online auction for all
owners of
classic and
collectors cars. We specialise in just that, so you
will appreciate, if
you
have used online auctions before, there will be no
searching through
computers or beanie babies to find what you are
looking for!

We have several categories in which to list items for
auction and all
standard listings are FREE…

Books and magazines
Collectors Car Sales
Collectors Car Spares
Manuals and handbooks
Memorabilia
Models, diecasts and slot cars

There is a very reasonable charge on completion of the
auction, our
complete
fee structure is displayed on our site, but as an
idea, selling items with a final value up to �25.00
would incur a
charge of
5%, (�1.25), an item selling for �1000 costs just
�26.62 to sell,
that’s a
fraction over 2.5%. We have a very special price for
selling cars, a
flat
charge of just �25.00
(twenty-five pounds) no matter what the final sale
price, �1000 or
�100,000.

“So, what is the catch and what’s the offer?” I hear
you say.

Collectors Car Auction goes live on the 1st of May and
we know that no
auction can be a success without buyers,
but if there is nothing to sell there will be no
buyers! So we want as
much
to sell as possible! As such we are offering “trade”
customers a very special deal.

All items listed will be free of all charges, no
reserve charge, no
sale
charges, nothing until 1st August 2000. There
is no cheaper way of selling! Even if your item sells
after the August
1st
deadline there will be no charge providing
the listing was before that date.

Our standard offer for non-trade is described on the
linked page and so
you
will see the advantage!

Full details of how to list are on our site, it’s
easy, but if you have
any
queries just ask at the address above. You can sell
anything related to collectors and classic cars,
whether a perfectly
restored E-Type, that hard to find part for a Model T
Ford,
or memorabilia you have had sitting in your study
…so
give it a try!! You can even add photos of your items,
as
the saying goes, a picture speaks a thousand words!

This really is the easy and inexpensive place to buy
and sell all items
related to collectors and classic cars!!

Right now we are in the process of listing over 1000
items to provide a
start, from magazines and models at �5, to a 1928
Rolls Royce Phantom 1 starting at �30,000, why not
give us a try and
see
what happens; what have you got to lose?

Finally I would like to thank you for taking the time
to read this far
and
to say that if you have any queries, or wish not to
receive any further correspondence from us, please
email to the above
address.

Thank you
Alan Skelton
CEO, Collectors Car Auction.
http://collectorscarauction.com

— Jerry Mouton jerry@moutons.org wrote:

I have received two pieces of spam related to
classic
cars recently, most recently from Jeff Lilly
Restoration
in San Antonio. While I do a number of web sites,
none is
specifically associated with Classic Cars. The only
connection I can figure is this list.

Has anybody else gotten recent spam from Jeff Lilly
or other Classic Car outfits?

Jerry Mouton mailto:jerry@moutons.org
Laissez les bons temps
rouler!


Do You Yahoo!?
Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites.
http://invites.yahoo.com

Ditto,
Jan White----- Original Message -----
From: PAM Trading pascal@PAM-TRADING.COM
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: [E-Type] Classic Car SPAM?

yes I got one of these too !

Pascal
Miami, FL

----- Original Message -----
From: michael spiers michaelspiers@yahoo.com
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: [E-Type] Classic Car SPAM?

I recieved the following this morning, note the
address line???:
Michael Spiers

Dear George and other affected list members,

Classic Car Spam?

Yes I admit it was I. In fact George, I am a list member under the address,
alan@eastmearn.freeserve.co.uk .

However I am afraid it was inadvertent, my personal address book was
unfortunately used along with commercial names. Over the past 18 months or
so, since joining this list, I have replied to some messages and my mail
program has picked up the reply addresses automatically, hence these few
members have been affected. I apologise to you all for upsetting your
sensibilities.

I am sure you will all realise that it would be ridiculous to pick out
individual names from the E-Type Lovers list when one posting would go to
everyone; a much more effective method of getting a sales pitch across.

I would like to thank George Shabatura who replied to me, in no uncertain
terms, pointing out this error.

Again my apologies to you all.

Alan Skelton> I suspect someone is mining the archives or something.

If you take the digest version of this list, you will note a “Commercial
use of members addresses prohibited” at the end of each digest. I could
do this for the regular list too but it would get sent with each message
and I felt that it would just become annoying.

Just a reminder to any commercial folks on the list, you are welcome to
participate but in no way do we desire to have you use this list as a
way to reach “targeted” potential customers.

We will consider it SPAM and it will not be tolerated.

George Cohn
List Admin