[E-Type] Eye Protection (Minimal Jag Content)

I just got back from the Eye Doctor who just removed a small spec
of metal from my eye. I’m not sure when I inflicted the injury.
My eye was bothering me a little bit for one or two days. In fact,
I really thought the irritation was another eye infection and was
on the fence about going to the eye Dr. I was very surprised when
it was a piece of metal. I wear glasses and am always running into
the garage to grind a 1/16 th off a screw or drill a hole. Or
perhaps I’m working on the Jag. Because I wear glasses, generally
I feel like I should be ok for these ‘‘simple’’ tasks that only take
a few seconds. What’s sad is that I have a pair of goggles within
arms reach. So, I’m telling myself to put on the goggles. An eye
injury maybe a one in a hundred thousand kind of event but when
your hobby has you in the ‘‘shop’’ there is ample opportunity for an
injury.

Ray Mikula (RJJM)
Libertyville, IL
Series II FHC–
RJJM
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Good advice Ray.

I’m usually very anal about putting on my goggles when drilling,
grinding, etc. but your reminder is good confirmation!

–chuck goolsbee
65ots, 1E10715
arlington, wa, usa
http://chuck.goolsbee.org

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In reply to a message from RJJM sent Tue 22 May 2007:

You could have written that post about me almost word for word Ray
last year. Thought glasses would do the trick but no, somehow the
little speck found its way past and into my eye just at the edge of
the cornea - which you do NOT want to damage.

The funny thing was the next day when I called into casualty to get
the irritation checked, the eye doctor told me there was already a
ring of rust around the sliver of metal and although he took most
of that out the halo of rust was still there.

Typical E-type…–
Peter Crespin 66E, 76 DD6 Coupe, 84 DD6, 85 XJS 5sp convert
Cambridge, United Kingdom
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In reply to a message from PeterCrespin sent Tue 22 May 2007:

My daughter’s fiance is a mechanic (God bless him) and has
had metal in his eye twice. The doc told him it rusts
immediately! After two trips to the doc, he says he will
now wear his goggles without fail (never had glasses, so he
didn’t even have a false sense of security). Sometimes the
metal is easy to remove, the just turn a Q-tip and it’s out,
but it’s not something I would want to try at home. Those
two precious eyes are all you get - they won’t grow back. :->

He broke his finger the other day working on a large truck!
The garage is full of hazards!–
Ginger, 1971 SIII 2+2, 1966 SI OTS
Central Florida, United States
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In reply to a message from RJJM sent Tue 22 May 2007:

Sound advice Ray � these accidents come out of the blue. I wear
glasses for close-up work and while using s/s locking wire cut the
wire near the canister. The other end deflected off my glasses and
stabbed me in the cheek, drawing blood and needing a tug to remove
it. I hadn�t considered wearing safety glasses for such a simple
job.

Dave–
'63 OTS 879419 Cornwall England
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Good advice, I always wear protective eye wear when working on the
cars, can be a hassle but not nearly as much so as sitting in the
Emergency Department.
Thanks for the timely reminder Ray,
Cheers,
LynnOn May 22, 2007, at 1:46 PM, RJJM wrote:

I just got back from the Eye Doctor who just removed a small spec
of metal from my eye. I’m not sure when I inflicted the injury.
My eye was bothering me a little bit for one or two days. In fact,
I really thought the irritation was another eye infection and was
on the fence about going to the eye Dr. I was very surprised when
it was a piece of metal. I wear glasses and am always running into
the garage to grind a 1/16 th off a screw or drill a hole. Or
perhaps I’m working on the Jag. Because I wear glasses, generally
I feel like I should be ok for these ‘‘simple’’ tasks that only take
a few seconds. What’s sad is that I have a pair of goggles within
arms reach. So, I’m telling myself to put on the goggles. An eye
injury maybe a one in a hundred thousand kind of event but when
your hobby has you in the ‘‘shop’’ there is ample opportunity for an
injury.

Ray Mikula (RJJM)
Libertyville, IL
Series II FHC

Lynn G
73 2+2 (Pearle)
68 OTS (Emmy)
Boise, ID USA

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I have been taking in all this safety talk and just couldn’t take it
anymore w/o a comment. I spent a career in the Health and Safety field.
You would not believe the accidents I have investigated in which injuries
could have been prevented by using personal protective. One comment re.
eye injuries I heard a lot was “I was only going to do xyz a very short
time and didn’t think I’d need them”. I was always taken by the macho type
who had done XX job a million times and knows how to protect himself.
But—it is like a guy on death row who finds Jesus–once they have the
injury they will NEVER go w/o protection again.

One really sad /tragic event happened to a guy who had been schooled by me
(I must not have done a very good job) and talked a great line for safety.
He decided he would jack up his car and not use jack stands–only the
jack–to work under it. Yep–it collapsed, killing him.

I love this term----“Illusions of Invulnerability”. Many have them and it
says “it is not going to happen to me”!!

PPE only goes so far. The best solution is to build in safety protection
and not have to rely on PPE. Can’t do that very well in our garages:)

[Original Message]
From: daverawle daverawle@onetel.net
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Date: 5/22/2007 9:39:53 PM
Subject: Re: [E-Type] Eye Protection (Minimal Jag Content)

In reply to a message from RJJM sent Tue 22 May 2007:

Sound advice Ray � these accidents come out of the blue. I wear
glasses for close-up work and while using s/s locking wire cut the
wire near the canister. The other end deflected off my glasses and
stabbed me in the cheek, drawing blood and needing a tug to remove
it. I hadn�t considered wearing safety glasses for such a simple
job.

Dave

'63 OTS 879419 Cornwall England
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Of course I make errors in taking certain precautions but I’ve noticed
as I get older I’m much more aware of “that hurts” when I make one of
them :slight_smile: Your comment reminded me of a news item some years back of a
grinding wheel that disintegrated nearly destroying one side of a
guy’s face. Since that time I don’t stand in front of a grinder wheel
when using it.
pauls 67ots

I have been taking in all this safety talk and just couldn’t take it
anymore w/o a comment. I spent a career in the Health and Safety field.
You would not believe the accidents I have investigated in which injuries
could have been prevented by using personal protective. One comment re.
eye injuries I heard a lot was “I was only going to do xyz a very short
time and didn’t think I’d need them”. I was always taken by the macho type
who had done XX job a million times and knows how to protect himself.
But—it is like a guy on death row who finds Jesus–once they have the
injury they will NEVER go w/o protection again.

One really sad /tragic event happened to a guy who had been schooled by me
(I must not have done a very good job) and talked a great line for safety.
He decided he would jack up his car and not use jack stands–only the
jack–to work under it. Yep–it collapsed, killing him.

I love this term----“Illusions of Invulnerability”. Many have them and it
says “it is not going to happen to me”!!
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Subject: Re: [E-Type] Eye Protection (Minimal Jag Content)

I am a little slow commenting on this topic but last year I had an
MRI of the brain. Prior to the MRI one fills out a questionnaire and
one of the questions is: Have you ever have metal bits in your eye.
I’ve been welding and grinding metal since I was a teenager and I had
to say yes. They would not let me have the MRI until I had a CAT
scan to see if any bits remained. I can only imagine what the huge
MRI magnets would do with a a piece of steel in the eye. I teach a
class in prototype construction at FIT, and the school trains us in
shop safety issues, and so now I must be a good example to the young
men and woman who take the class.

Dave Reina
67ots

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Yep, I went through this about six months ago. I believe the technician
said that the risk was that any particles would super heat, and scorch
the tissue around it.
It added quite a bit to the cost of the procedure but now at least I
know they’re clear, and my safety glasses now sit in plain view next to
my hearing protectors so I have no excuse not to don them. I also got a
really cool set of safety glasses from Sears that has 4 strong LED pods
on the temples. It’s great for working in low light situations, even
when eye safety isn’t a strong concern.
Eric

I am a little slow commenting on this topic but last year I had an
MRI of the brain. Prior to the MRI one fills out a questionnaire
and
one of the questions is: Have you ever have metal bits in your
eye.
I’ve been welding and grinding metal since I was a teenager and I
had
to say yes.

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Oooo, I cringe to contemplate how they learned to ask that question
before an MRI.
pauls 67ots

I am a little slow commenting on this topic but last year I had an
MRI of the brain. Prior to the MRI one fills out a questionnaire and
one of the questions is: Have you ever have metal bits in your eye.
I’ve been welding and grinding metal since I was a teenager and I had
to say yes. They would not let me have the MRI until I had a CAT
scan to see if any bits remained. I can only imagine what the huge
MRI magnets would do with a a piece of steel in the eye. I teach a
class in prototype construction at FIT, and the school trains us in
shop safety issues, and so now I must be a good example to the young
men and woman who take the class.

Dave Reina
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Subject: [E-Type] Eye Protection (Minimal Jag Content)

David Reina wrote:

I am a little slow commenting on this topic but last year I had an MRI
of the brain. Prior to the MRI one fills out a questionnaire and one
of the questions is: Have you ever have metal bits in your eye.

They must not care at the health care institutions I go to.

I had an MRI on both my legs last year and the only question having to
do with metal was do you have any body piercings?

George Cohn
'70 OTS

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I was working in Bude, Cornwall with a construction crew from Sheffield
several years ago.We were installing an automatic pressure lube system in some
equipment. We were on a tight schedule because we had a limited amount of time.
One of the guys was drilling and tapping a lot of holes in the structure (we
were outside working on towers). It was very windy most of the time. At the
end of the day, the drilling tapping guy had an eye that was blood red. I
asked whathad happened and he said it was a metal chip from the drilling into
galvanized steel.
At breakfast the next morning, he looked awful and I asked him to see a
doctor, which he refused. Finally, the second night, he got up and drove all the
way to Plymouth at 3am to an emergency room. His eye was bandaged the rest of
the time and he had to go back to Plymouth a couple of more times. My
conclusion was that the Brits are tough guys. I could not imagine how much
discomfort he was in to work for two days. It was apparentally a quite long chip
thrown off the drill motor and must have penetrated his eye.
Yes, eye protection matters.
Mike Moore

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The story they ( an Austin, TX firm) told me prior to getting an MRI is
this: if you still have some residual metal in the eye, the MRI can
actually pull in metal thru your eye ball and cause irreparable damage,
even blindness. when I told them I have had metal removed from my eye
on a couple of occasions, they wanted my to sign a wavier absolving
them of any responsibility. After I balked at that I was told they did
have a test that could detect the metal prior to the MRI. Guess you
have to bitch before you can get "safer’ treatment.

Z. Ray
'66 GT-350

Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 17:27:17 -0700
From: George Cohn gwcohn@simplybits.net
Subject: Re: [E-Type] Eye Protection (Minimal Jag Content)

David Reina wrote:

I am a little slow commenting on this topic but last year I had an
MRI
of the brain. Prior to the MRI one fills out a questionnaire and one
of the questions is: Have you ever have metal bits in your eye.

They must not care at the health care institutions I go to.

I had an MRI on both my legs last year and the only question having to
do with metal was do you have any body piercings?

George Cohn
'70 OTS

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