I need to remove the oilpan on my E-type, but the torsion
bar mount seems to definitely be in the way. What are some
of the ways to remove the pan easily?
Thanks,
Andy–
andyct
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In reply to a message from andyct sent Tue 29 May 2012:
It will clear the torsion bar mount but you need to turn the
crank slightly away from TDC to allow the sump to come forward.–
Clive, '62 Coupe 860320
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In reply to a message from Clive Wilkinson sent Tue 29 May 2012:
Clive,
Thanks for your prompt response!
Turning the crank could be a problem. The reason I want to
remove the pan is because the pistons seem seized now,
although a year ago they weren’t. the car has been inside a
barn the whole time and I put oil in the cylinder spark
plugs holes to lube the rings. I was thinking I’d drop the
pan and tap the crankshaft with wood or something
non-marring to free the pistons. Pulling the car in gear
didn’t move them, just skidded the tires.
Andy–
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Andy,
I’d suggest you add some diesel or fuel oil into the chambers generously. Motor oil is more viscous and less likely to penetrate the metal oxide structures, most likely around the rings. The diesel or fuel oil has better wetting capability. If you could carefully set up a heater to the block, that would also give some expansion of parts for further penetration. And finally, take a wooden dowel and insert it into the combustion chambers followed by some light but firm whacks against the piston domes. Repeatedly doing this will cause hydraulic shock to the oil/fuel/diesel and get better penetration. It may also break up the oxides (rust) that have the rings locked. I’ve done this successfully on other motors.
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Andy, As appears from your description that you will have remove the engine, why
not just do it now? It’s a lot easier to work on it when it is out of the car.
Larry----- Original Message ----
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Sent: Tue, May 29, 2012 5:38:27 AM
Subject: [E-Type] How to remove oilpan, 1962 XKE, 3.8l?
I need to remove the oilpan on my E-type, but the torsion
bar mount seems to definitely be in the way. What are some
of the ways to remove the pan easily?
andyct
ct, United States
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In reply to a message from Larry Kohler sent Tue 29 May 2012:
I just did this job over the past couple of weeks to replace all my
bearings. To get the sump off you need to first remove the damper
from the end of the crank. You next need to raise the motor as
much as you can by slackening off the rear motor stabilizer mount.
Once you have done those two tasks it comes off quite easily.
Now getting it back on without knocking the rear cork seal into the
sump is a skill I have not yet mastered. I will be attempting this
very task over the next week. Oh and don’t forget to put the short
bolt in the right place adjacent to the timing cover.
Kevin
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Andy, As appears from your description that you will have remove the engine, why
not just do it now? It’s a lot easier to work on it when it is out of the car.
Larry
–
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Try a solvent base contact cement on the cork and pan, like counter top glue. that may keep the cork from popping off.____________________________________________________________
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…and loosten the stabalizer…
My driveway is long enough that you can appreciate the conflict between the desire for privacy and the terror of being completely lost .----- Original Message -----
From: “Lambsfoot” deightonnest@aol.com
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Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:23:42 PM
Subject: Re: [E-Type] How to remove oilpan, 1962 XKE, 3.8l?
In reply to a message from Larry Kohler sent Tue 29 May 2012:
I just did this job over the past couple of weeks to replace all my
bearings. To get the sump off you need to first remove the damper
from the end of the crank. You next need to raise the motor as
much as you can by slackening off the rear motor stabilizer mount.
Once you have done those two tasks it comes off quite easily.
The original message included these comments:
Andy, As appears from your description that you will have remove the engine, why
not just do it now? It’s a lot easier to work on it when it is out of the car.
Larry
–
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Andy,
You can get it out without bothering the reaction plate. Take the
cover off the bottom of the flywheel so it can drop down easier. You
will probably have to remove the crankshaft pulley so you can pull it
forward far enough to escape the reaction plate. I’ve done it twice
without bothering anything else however I have a 4.2L the 3.8L has a
larger diameter pulley/harmonic balancer.
pauls 67ots… also in CT.
I need to remove the oilpan on my E-type, but the torsion
bar mount seems to definitely be in the way. What are some
of the ways to remove the pan easily?
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Hi Paul,
My car is a 3.8 and with the damper off and the back at BDC or a few
degrees one side or the other the pan is slide forward and down with
no fooling around jacking the engine up etc. I found the right crank
position by accident and if it will work on my car I don’t know why it
wouldn’t work on other 3.8’s as it wasn’t tight coming off.
Bob
889076
Plymouth, Mi.On May 29, 2012, at 6:43 PM, paul spurlock wrote:
Andy,
You can get it out without bothering the reaction plate. Take the
cover off the bottom of the flywheel so it can drop down easier. You
will probably have to remove the crankshaft pulley so you can pull it
forward far enough to escape the reaction plate. I’ve done it twice
without bothering anything else however I have a 4.2L the 3.8L has a
larger diameter pulley/harmonic balancer.
pauls 67ots… also in CT.
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obviously i omitted piston after back at BDC…
Bob
889076
Plymouth, Mi.On May 29, 2012, at 10:14 PM, Stevenson Robert wrote:
Hi Paul,
My car is a 3.8 and with the damper off and the back at BDC or a
few degrees one side or the other the pan is slide forward and down
with no fooling around jacking the engine up etc. I found the right
crank position by accident and if it will work on my car I don’t
know why it wouldn’t work on other 3.8’s as it wasn’t tight coming
off.
Bob
889076
Plymouth, Mi.
On May 29, 2012, at 6:43 PM, paul spurlock wrote:Andy,
You can get it out without bothering the reaction plate. Take the
cover off the bottom of the flywheel so it can drop down easier. You
will probably have to remove the crankshaft pulley so you can pull it
forward far enough to escape the reaction plate. I’ve done it twice
without bothering anything else however I have a 4.2L the 3.8L has a
larger diameter pulley/harmonic balancer.
pauls 67ots… also in CT.
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In reply to a message from andyct sent Tue 29 May 2012:
Hi Andy,
Before pulling the engine as was suggested and since the
engine was free last year I would proceed as follows.
I’ll bet that after a few of those back and forth’s the
motor will free up.
Dave
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Turning the crank could be a problem. The reason I want to
remove the pan is because the pistons seem seized now,
although a year ago they weren’t. the car has been inside a
barn the whole time and I put oil in the cylinder spark
plugs holes to lube the rings. I was thinking I’d drop the
–
David Reina
Brooklyn, NY, United States
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In reply to a message from moxie sent Wed 30 May 2012:
Excellent ideas all around! Thanks! I’ll take a look this week.–
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I’m sure that there are those on the list that have been fortunate enough to
have been able to free up a frozen engine, start it up and drive it happily for
many miles. However, I would guess that those are few and far between. As Clint
would say ‘Do you feel lucky today’? Good Luck, let’s hope that you are one of
the lucky ones.
Larry----- Original Message ----
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Sent: Wed, May 30, 2012 7:48:40 AM
Subject: Re: [E-Type] How to remove oilpan, 1962 XKE, 3.8l?
In reply to a message from andyct sent Tue 29 May 2012:
Hi Andy,
Before pulling the engine as was suggested and since the
engine was free last year I would proceed as follows.
I’ll bet that after a few of those back and forth’s the
motor will free up.
The original message included these comments:
Turning the crank could be a problem. The reason I want to
remove the pan is because the pistons seem seized now,
although a year ago they weren’t. the car has been inside a
barn the whole time and I put oil in the cylinder spark
plugs holes to lube the rings. I was thinking I’d drop the
–
David Reina
Brooklyn, NY, United States
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In agreeing with Larry, it may be possible. If it frees itself, the problem remains of the rings being stuck to the piston walls. Within a week or so you will be able to tell.
LLoyd
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From: “Larry Kohler” jkohler@sbcglobal.net
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Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 10:04:26 AM
Subject: Re: [E-Type] How to remove oilpan, 1962 XKE, 3.8l?
I’m sure that there are those on the list that have been fortunate enough to
have been able to free up a frozen engine, start it up and drive it happily for
many miles. However, I would guess that those are few and far between. As Clint
would say ‘Do you feel lucky today’? Good Luck, let’s hope that you are one of
the lucky ones.
Larry
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Larry,
A friend of mine freed up a “stuck” engine with a 20" foot or so tow
some 20 years ago years ago and to the best of my knowledge the engine
is still running and the car is now out in the LA area. Once in awhile
the stars, planets etc align and you luck out!
Bob
889076
Plymouth, Mi.On May 30, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Larry Kohler wrote:
I’m sure that there are those on the list that have been fortunate
enough to
have been able to free up a frozen engine, start it up and drive it
happily for
many miles. However, I would guess that those are few and far
between. As Clint
would say ‘Do you feel lucky today’? Good Luck, let’s hope that you
are one of
the lucky ones.
Larry
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Bob, It does happen.
Larry----- Original Message ----
From: Stevenson Robert bobanddarl@comcast.net
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Sent: Wed, May 30, 2012 1:22:48 PM
Subject: Re: [E-Type] How to remove oilpan, 1962 XKE, 3.8l?
Larry,
A friend of mine freed up a “stuck” engine with a 20" foot or so tow some 20
years ago years ago and to the best of my knowledge the engine is still running
and the car is now out in the LA area. Once in awhile the stars, planets etc
align and you luck out!
Bob
889076
Plymouth, Mi.
On May 30, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Larry Kohler wrote:
I’m sure that there are those on the list that have been fortunate enough to
have been able to free up a frozen engine, start it up and drive it happily
for
many miles. However, I would guess that those are few and far between. As
Clint
would say ‘Do you feel lucky today’? Good Luck, let’s hope that you are one of
the lucky ones.
Larry
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