[E-Type] S2 - Sticking Brakes Continued & Again & Again

In reply to a message from PeterCrespin sent Sat 5 Oct 2013:

The thing which causes such confusion is that the hydraulic
system and the vacuum system do not operate independently of
each other . The vac system is in fact modulated by the
hydraulic system and as a result if there is any sticking of
the hydraulic system ( particularly the pedal master
cylinder ) this will result in vacuum being retained in
the forward chamber of the servo and thus allowing the
atmospheric pressure in the rear chamber to keep the servo
piston pressed forward slightly, thus retaining hydraulic
pressure in the brake circuit after the servo.

The factory manual at page L.X.s.3 and 4 spells out
precisely how the system works , and an understanding of
this explains why pulling the reaction valve manually -
resulting in the whoosh of air into the forward chamber of
the servo - helps to release the brakes

My experience of this problem - and it is quite extensive

  • is that it results from the poor lubricity of modern brake
    fluids which result in the HYDRAULIC seals binding on the
    bores of the cylinders. This is particularly so in the case
    of the servo shuttle which is exposed to more heat. I have
    cured it in the past by rebuilding the servo cylinder using
    copious quantities of red rubber grease - I bought a 1 lb.
    jar - but I have a suspicion that an easier way might be to
    dissolve perhaps an ounce of red rubber grease in some dot 3
    fluid and then flush the system through with this so that
    the system is now completely refilled with adequately
    slippery fluid–
    christopher storey
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In reply to a message from PeterCrespin sent Sat 5 Oct 2013:

And I’m at my computer late today.

I don’t mind being wrong. Part of the process of troubleshooting. I
was referencing the Haynes manual last night but the factory manual
this afternoon. It is indeed clearer. Both sides of the servo are
under vacuum at rest. When the brakes are applied the intermediate
piston in the m/c moves forward, closing the diaphragm valve in the
rv which isolates the vacuum to the front of the servo. The
intermediate piston continues to move forward and in sequence the
air control spool at the end of the reaction valve opens, allowing
the ingress of air which pressurises the back of the servo and the
differential pulls the servo diaphragm forward.

Ian described taking off the end cap and pulling on the air spool
while the brakes were sticking and hearing the hiss of air.
Indicates the air spool was closed as it should be. What I am not
understanding and what led to my fit of conjecture is why opening
the air spool would cause the brakes to release when normally the
action causes the brakes to apply.–
The original message included these comments:

Hi Nick. Up early early watching the GP.
Not trying to be snotty but you’re wrong.


Nick Saltarelli '68 Cdn mkt E-type S1� OTS, '54 XK120SE OTS
Niagara, Ontario, Canada
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