Re[2]: [E-Type] thrust bearings (was pre-oilers)

Bob described a problem as follows:

 >I also shift into neutral and release the clutch at stop lights, but 
 I do >have a problem when I have to stop while going up a steep hill. 
 If there >are no cars behind me, I release the brake and go into first 
 gear as I >roll backwards. But most drivers usually sit right on my 
 tail. If they do, >I'm forced to hold the car with the footbrake as 
 well as having the clutch >pedal depressed and the gearbox in first 
 gear so I can move out without >rolling backwards and smacking the car 
 in the rear. As you know, a rear >ender would be much more devistating 
 than an occasional thrust bearing and >throwout bearing wear.

I’m confused - putting the car in first while it’s rolling backwards does not
sound like a very good idea. Why is the car rolling backwards? Doesn’t a hill
start normally include holding the car on the handbrake? In the UK, when the
dinosaurs still roamed (which was when I started driving…) the driving test
required a start on a hill with zero rollback. My instructor (my father) had
used the technique of placing a matchbox behind the rear wheels - if I crushed
it, I failed one of HIS tests, which were always much more demanding than those
required for a driving license.

For a temporary uphill stop the technique was always:

Stop:

  • Select Neutral and hold car on footbrake

Start:

  • Hold car on footbrake, select first gear.
  • Hold car on handbrake and release footbrake.
  • Release clutch while increasing revs and gradually release handbrake
    (minimise clutch slip, by engaging it fully ASAP). Zero rollback.

Well, it’s worked for me for >35 years… Maybe Bob could give this a try.

John.

For a temporary uphill stop the technique was always:

Stop:

  • Select Neutral and hold car on footbrake

Start:

  • Hold car on footbrake, select first gear.

  • Hold car on handbrake and release footbrake.

  • Release clutch while increasing revs and gradually release handbrake

    (minimise clutch slip, by engaging it fully ASAP). Zero rollback.

Well, it’s worked for me for >35 years… Maybe Bob could give this a try.

John.

Easier said than done, good friend, especially if the idiot behind you has
his front bumper practically rubbing the Jag’s rear overrides and the
typical Jag handbrake is not as trustworthy as one would like. I do just
as you suggested when I have at least three feet of clearance in the rear.
Otherwise to play it safe in some situations, I select first gear about
time the caution light appears (if I can spot its reflection to traffic on
my left or right) and let the slipping clutch keep me from rolling
backwards. I got the car with 19,000 miles on the odometer and just had
the second clutch repaced at 90,000 miles that occurred in the time span
of 1969 to 1997.
Bob 64 3.8L FHC