[v12-engine] Piston rings Hastings / Deves / Total Seal

Hellos,

I’m looking to purchase a set of standard size piston rings
for my light engine rebuild. Sleeves are all in good shape.

Trying to decide on which piston rings to buy. XKs Unlimited
stocks the Deves rings ($240/set) but from what gather on
Google, they are much harder to seat and are more suitable
to using new sleeves? No idea if there is any truth to this
so thought of asking you folks.

I’ve used Hastings before and they worked fine. I think they
are about $430/set.

And at $800+/set for the TotalSeal rings, I think they are
out of my budget.–
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In reply to a message from V. Ambrose sent Wed 15 Jun 2016:

To seat the rings you should lightly hone the sleeves, will
save you a couple of hundred $;s–
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In reply to a message from Norman LUTZ sent Wed 15 Jun 2016:

I’m not sure where the 800.00 price comes from. I sent one
of my 6.0 pistons to total seal, and they sent me a custom
set of rings for just a little over 400.00. I used Total
seal rings on my last three rebuilds, (two Jag V12s), and
can’t imagine using anything else. It simply amazing to see
how your oil stays so clean after 3-5000 miles. These rings
eliminate blow by, so they HAVE to produce extra power.
Maybe not much, but well worth the money in my opinion.–
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In reply to a message from Gene Holtzclaw sent Fri 17 Jun 2016:

I called them. Their standard set is for 5.3L is a little
over $800–
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I’m not sure where the 800.00 price comes from. I sent one
of my 6.0 pistons to total seal, and they sent me a custom
set of rings for just a little over 400.00. I used Total


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Obviously you want the custom set, not the standard set!

– KirbertOn 18 Jun 2016 at 14:59, V. Ambrose wrote:

I called them. Their standard set is for 5.3L is a little
over $800

…they sent me a custom
set of rings for just a little over 400.00.

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In reply to a message from Kirbert sent Sat 18 Jun 2016:

I know I swapped a few emails with one of the guys in sales
over ring gland sizes, depth, etc. It was then suggested I
send them a piston and allow them to put together a set of
rings for me. It wasn’t long that I got a set of rings for a
little over 400.00. I don’t know why the 5.3 would be so
much more.
Here is the invoice:

REP: Edward Law SHIPPER: UPS P.O.#: GENE DATE
SHIPPED: 12/23/15
PART# DESCRIPTION QTY SHP’D B.O.'D PRICE EXTENSION
CUSTOM-T-01 BORE _____ WIDTH ___ ___ ___ GS1
Inv.#_______Line# __ 12 12 0 $32.26 $387.12
204383 398 035433 0586 125 CRM STEEL 12 12 0 $0.00 $0.00
208582 TS3 035450 0575 151 GAPLESS 12 12 0 $0.00 $0.00
000861 OR 035450 1180 145 3PC OIL 12 12 0 $0.00 $0.00
END CUSTOM SET 3.543 1.5 1.5 3.0 12CYL 0 0 0 $0.00 $0.00
RETURN CUSTOMERS PISTON (1) 0 0 0 $0.00 $0.00
DECLARED VALUE 100.00 0 0 0 $0.00 $0.00

*** CREDITCARD PAYMENT ***

MASTERCARD XXXX XXXX XXXX 1216, Auth: 596945

I AGREE TO COMPLY WITH THE CARDHOLDER AGREEMENT

Signature:On File
GENE HOLTZCLAW 0 0 0 $0.00 $0.00
PAYMENT INFO:
MASTERCARD - $405.00
1216, 0619 - Approval# 596945 SUBTOTAL: $387.12
SHIPPING: $17.88
HANDLING: $0.00
OTHER: $0.00
TAX: $0.00
TOTAL: $405.00–
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In reply to a message from Gene Holtzclaw sent Sun 19 Jun 2016:

Gene,

Did you send the cylinder to or just a piston?

Dan–
The original message included these comments:

send them a piston and allow them to put together a set of
rings for me. It wasn’t long that I got a set of rings for a


DanS
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In reply to a message from DanS sent Mon 20 Jun 2016:

Just one piston.–
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Hi Vikram.

Finally from where you got the rings?

For my HE I found Hastings (very cheap would say - around 100 USD) https://www.autodoc.co.uk/hastings-piston-ring/9447523#

Sent an inquiry to Total Seal. I’m wondering if it makes such a difference the quality of Total Seal (even at 400 USD + shipment to Europe + custom at approx 20%).

Dorin

in most business , you get what you pay for, cheap means less quality, and R&D engineering!
i have used Total Seal many engines ,never any problems, that i am aware of, NO blowby or lower case pressure build up!
on some engines with low cost rings i have had oil leaks from case pressure buildup, at hi load and RPM use!

Ron,

I had a feeling that also Hastings are not bad quality. However I wait for the answer of Total Seal.

Thanks a lot for your advice.

Best,

Dorin

Hi Dorin, I went with the basic Deves ring set from XKs. Worked out great. Car makes so much more power than before and hasn’t given me any problems and I really drive it hard. I can break traction on dry tarmac shifting between 2nd and 3rd.