[x-type] X-type worries

Hello all, sorry I know this post comes up alot but I wasnt able to
find all the info that I needed. I have had a terrible time trying
to locate other jag forums as well to get specs and tech info about
some of the problems with these cars. Basically, I will hopefully
be purchasing a 2002 x-type 3.0 sport 5spd manual 67k miles on it
this saturday or sometime in the next coming week. Now everyone I
know has been telling me to stay away from these cars. They all say
jaguars are junk. However, I like the styling of the x-type and I
like the awd.

From what I have read is that the auto tranny isnt the greatest but
what about the manual? I realize that there isnt a whole lot that
can go wrong with a manual trans but just wondering if there is
anything other then a flimsy clutch that I should look out for.
Also how reliable is the AWD system. I know ford is new at this awd
deal and has had some problems with sensors etc. Anything else I
should look at with the x-type?

Hows the motor? I realize its your basic ford power plant with jag
heads on it but what about water pump? ignition? power steering etc
anything tend to give way early? thanks alot guys and sorry for all
the questions.–
Looking for an x-type
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Good grief! Do any of these people warning you off Jaguars actually own
one? The X-type is a superb car, and the manual transmission car is
better, in my opinion than the automatic (we have both). There are no
weak points to worry about either in engine or transmission and I am
assuming that all the factory upgrades have been done to this 2002 car
(there were quite a few done to the early cars; your dealer can provide
a print-out of the car’s record with all this information listed).
Engine, steering, transmission, clutch. No problems. We have three of
these cars (and all three are 2002 models). The service record is
IMPORTANT.

For the record, this is a Jaguar, not a Ford - designed, engineered and
built by Jaguar, not in common with any Ford car, although some
components were borrowed (“why re-invent the wheel?”); the engine block
is the same as one used in some Fords and not much else.
Finally, your name?

Gregory-----Original Message-----
From: owner-x-type@jag-lovers.org [mailto:owner-x-type@jag-lovers.org]
On Behalf Of SEE
Sent: May 31, 2006 9:51 AM
To: x-type@jag-lovers.org
Subject: [x-type] X-type worries

Hello all, sorry I know this post comes up alot but I wasnt able to
find all the info that I needed. I have had a terrible time trying
to locate other jag forums as well to get specs and tech info about
some of the problems with these cars. Basically, I will hopefully
be purchasing a 2002 x-type 3.0 sport 5spd manual 67k miles on it
this saturday or sometime in the next coming week. Now everyone I
know has been telling me to stay away from these cars. They all say
jaguars are junk. However, I like the styling of the x-type and I
like the awd.

From what I have read is that the auto tranny isnt the greatest but
what about the manual? I realize that there isnt a whole lot that
can go wrong with a manual trans but just wondering if there is
anything other then a flimsy clutch that I should look out for.
Also how reliable is the AWD system. I know ford is new at this awd
deal and has had some problems with sensors etc. Anything else I
should look at with the x-type?

Hows the motor? I realize its your basic ford power plant with jag
heads on it but what about water pump? ignition? power steering etc
anything tend to give way early? thanks alot guys and sorry for all
the questions.

Looking for an x-type
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In reply to a message from Dr. Gregory Andrachuk sent Wed 31 May 2006:

I concur. Good cars. Some annoying little things. Nothing big.
See here: http://www.reliabilityindex.co.uk/tophundred.html
posted a while back on this board. Scored No. 13 of 100 for
reliability. Top 12 were Japanese cars. You may want to look
around for an X with not so many miles on it. My 02’ had 33k on it
when I bought it a couple months ago. Still had the factory
warranty so I got fixed what needed fixing at no cost. Check
around with the dealers. They usually offer a Pre-Certified with a
6 year 100,000 mile warranty for a few extra bucks. Also check
ebay. Lots of X’s for sale there for fair prices.–
mgdbottled
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In reply to a message from mgdbottled sent Wed 31 May 2006:

Having owned a Ford Mondeo 2.5 V6 and TD I moved up to the X type a
year ago.Dont do that many miles usually so went for a 3 year old
manual 3.0 Sport (now 4 yr old) with Cranberry (different and not
boring)leather.Best car I’ve owned in 21 years.One problem with ABS
speed sensor which was replaced on the aftermarket warranty that
came with the car from the (non-Jag) dealer.
The 2.5 and 3.0 are AWD the 2.0 ltr variants and 2.2D are FWD.
Mine is AWD and sure footed even on roads with lots of surface
water thanks to the weight of the car and the fantastic AWD.
On greasy roads accelerates hard from standstill no wheelspin.
Get one, or, unlike us mis-out!–
BuckMR2, X Type 3.0 Sport, Manual
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In reply to a message from SEE sent Wed 31 May 2006:

Ditto to all the above. All I can tell you is my wife is getting
tired of my telling her how much I love my 2004 3.0. Once you do
the research on these cars, as I did, it’s a no brainer.
Mike–
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In reply to a message from Mikepsych sent Thu 1 Jun 2006:

Just make sure you buy an extended warranty. Most
problematic were the auto version 02 cars. Also had weather
strip issues, electronic issues, brakes issues, wind noise,
transaxle issues. Make sure you get the extended warranty or
be prepared to either live with nagging issues or pay alot
for dealer visits. Car is good, nice style and drives well.
But it is a cheap (read de-tuned) Jaguar which means that
there is quite a bit Ford in it that works better on a Ford
and not a Jag. 02 was a problem year for Jag since it was
really the first year selling cycle.–
TooManyCARS
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In reply to a message from SEE sent Wed 31 May 2006:

Ditto on the comments. Bought my first Jag, an 03 X Type 2.5,
having test drove a bunch of its competition. Put 38K miles on her
with no major issues. Had the common minor problems, but, the
dealer handled them all with no problem. Liked the car so well,
that I just swapped it for an 06 X-Type 3 liter. I also bought the
Jag extra mile warranty - covered the car for 7 years, 100K miles.
This car’s a keeper.

Regards:
OldME–
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In reply to a message from OldME sent Thu 1 Jun 2006:

Hi oldme how about a picture of the new 06 X–
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Ditto on the comments. Bought my first Jag, an 03 X Type 2.5,


Noel X type SE Australia
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In reply to a message from Mikepsych sent Thu 1 Jun 2006:

After a year my wife has also grown accustomed to me telling her
what I have done or have planned for my 3.0
=;-))–
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Ditto to all the above. All I can tell you is my wife is getting
tired of my telling her how much I love my 2004 3.0. Once you do
Mike


BuckMR2, X Type 3.0 Sport, Manual
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In reply to a message from OZYINXTYPE sent Thu 1 Jun 2006:

Haven’t had a chance to shoot any digital photos of her yet, but,
she’s Azure metallic blue with the stone interior. Equipped with
the sunroof package, she’s got the 17’’ wheels and the fold down
rear seat. Also got the heated seats. She corners better than my
2.5 did, and, has way more power. Hunkered down on those fat 17’’
wheels, she looks way more muscular than my 03 did.

Regards:
OldME–
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In reply to a message from SEE sent Wed 31 May 2006:

Hi,

I’m on my second X-Type a 3.0 SE Auto after having a 2.5
Manual both have been so reliable it’s quite astounding!
The AWD is quite impressive and was quite a selling point to
me as I drive from the UK to Switzerland every so often.
(Note the looks I had driving through France leads me to
believe they hadn’t seen one before).

Don’t listen to the negative comments that are out there,
believe me they are without foundation! Yes it shares a
common platform, I think these days thats the way things
are. For example an Audi TT shares the same chassis with a
Skoda Octavia, does that mean they are the same?
However… Drive a Mondeo then drive the X-Type and draw
your own conclusions!

I love the X-Type, when I first saw it at the NEC Motorshow
it just looked so different to the humdrum alternatives and
so far I just haven’t seen anything that tempts me away.

There are a few niggles to look out for but none so far I
would call major unless you are very unlucky - and that
applies to every car on the market!!

Let us know how you get on!

Jase.–
Jaco
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In reply to a message from SEE sent Wed 31 May 2006:

I do not know where these people get their superb comments from…

  1. Jag X-Type was rated 13th in a reliabilty study done in the UK
    on 55,000 cars, the first 12 places were Japanese… Jag X-Type was
    way on top of the list of 100 in the study.
  2. Ford has a proven engine that has been adapted to Jag’s needs…
    All engines and key componenets have been tested and passed the
    150,000 miles test at Jaguar.
  3. My X-Type has a manual gear box and it is so much more fun to
    drive. No clutch problems. And if you ever drive on snow with AWD a
    manual gear box is the ideal way of controling the car. My only
    regret is that it is not a 6 speed gear shift for easy cruising…
    BTW I met, just today, a man who has a Jag like mine, he told be he
    had 100,000 miles on his, with NO problems, and it looked
    impecable…
    Enjoy…–
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be purchasing a 2002 x-type 3.0 sport 5spd manual 67k miles on it
jaguars are junk. However, I like the styling of the x-type and I
what about the manual? I realize that there isnt a whole lot that


S2 Jag X-Type Estate
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In reply to a message from SEE sent Wed 31 May 2006:

I purchased my 2002 X-Type 3.0 Sport in April of this year with 22k
miles on the clock and 2 months left of the factory warranty. This
car has every option except for NAV and Premium sound. I too
hesitated at purchasing an X-Type after reading of the
transmissions worries and replacement costs. From what I have read,
only the very early 02 models had tranmission issues which should
have been corrected by now. After purchasing my X-Type, I scheduled
the 25k service and had the car checked out by the local Jag
dealer. They reviewed the service history and also verified that my
transmission serial number was not on the service advisory list. I
had some minor issues corrected at that time which included a
missing transmission cooling cover ($50), friction modifier added
to the power steering fluid to remedy a squeek in the steering
column and had both front seat tracks repaired to fix a slight
rocking motion.

I bought the dealer extended warranty which covers more than the
Jaguar Extra Mile warranty for less money. I would not own the car
without this as the transmission replacement would run $7000
according to the service department. Now I can rest easy and really
enjoy the car.

You will not find a comparable car for the money.–
Brad Kulick - 02 X-Type 3.0 Sport
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In reply to a message from BLKJAK sent Tue 6 Jun 2006:

Brad,
What is this stuff and is it still working?
Where do you get it?–
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transmission serial number was not on the service advisory list. I
had some minor issues corrected at that time which included a
missing transmission cooling cover ($50), friction modifier added
to the power steering fluid to remedy a squeek in the steering
column and had both front seat tracks repaired to fix a slight


BuckMR2, X Type 3.0 Sport, Manual
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In reply to a message from BuckMR2 sent Tue 6 Jun 2006:

The dealer had the friction modifier. I didn’t get the name but it
was a Jaguar ‘‘fix’’ for the problem. The problem was supposed to be
a noisey seal on the top of the input shaft on the rack. However
this was not the problem. The used car dealer had their mechanic do
a brake pad replacement on the front. In the process, the mechanic
twisted the caliper putting an extra loop in the brake hose. This
extra loop would rub on the left front strut and was making noise.

I’ll look at my invoice for the service and see if there’s a part
number listed.

Brad–
Brad Kulick - 02 X-Type 3.0 Sport
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I know that this is a very old thread but I thought I would add my penny’s worth.
We have a 2004 X-Type Estate 2,0D.
We have had it since new (17 Year now) And the only unplanned maintenance was a power steering pump that had a leak.
I have just had the headlining replaced.
Original Exhaust etc.
We just cannot seem part with it as it has no value in Germany now.

This bodes well for me. I just bought a 2005 X-Type sedan with 31,900 miles on it. I hope I get to enjoy it for the next 17 years.

I have a X type 2002 3.0 auto about 5 years now, the only thing I
replaced was the starter, it was the solonoid. Its a real nice handling car
especially if you put your foot to the floor and it shifts into 5 fear it takes
off like a race car. Try it once.
Walter