[xj] AC amp reverse engineering still progressing

In reply to a message from jparsons sent Tue 11 Sep 2007:

John, don’t know about Duncan Brown, and his engineering a cost
effective AC amp, but what are you considering ‘‘cost effective’’? I
know the AC amps from most parts dealers are around $275.00, or
there abouts, but Caufeld Jag, in Australia sold me one for
$182.00, including shipping to the US. This is the one that
resembles a shotgun shell in size and shape, and reported to be
better than the original. Takes about 5 minutes to install, and
don’t have to take the old one out, and, so far, is working great.
For all that the amp does, I doubt that it’ll ever get much cheaper
than that. But good luck in your search. Keith–
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at engineering a cost effective replacement AC amp?


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John

I think he built a successful version on a cicruit board and ran it
in the car. But since his report on that and the suggestion that
he could turn out a kit for (I think) $20 we’ve heard nothing
further.

He’d got a bit further than shown here (which looks pretty good to
me)

I did track down contact details for the guy I believe designed it,
but we never followed that up.–
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Does anyone know what ever happened to Duncan Brown and his
efforts at understanding the Delanair system and his quest
at engineering a cost effective replacement AC amp?


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In reply to a message from Keith Hodges sent Tue 11 Sep 2007:

Keith,

I had just been doing some reading in the archives and I
came across some interesting threads on the subject.
Unfortunately they stopped in 2005 so I was just wondering
if any of the old timers knew what happened. I have come
across the amp you are talking about. THEPARTSBIN.COM sells
it for $294. That has to be one heck of a profit margin.
Your price from AUS is easier to take.

Regards
John–
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In reply to a message from jparsons sent Tue 11 Sep 2007:
John, don’t know about Duncan Brown, and his engineering a cost
effective AC amp, but what are you considering ‘‘cost effective’’? I
know the AC amps from most parts dealers are around $275.00, or
there abouts, but Caufeld Jag, in Australia sold me one for
$182.00, including shipping to the US. This is the one that


John
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In reply to a message from jparsons sent Wed 12 Sep 2007:

Yes, I saw several parts houses with prices around your quote, and
several around 275. The $182.00 price was only a month ago, so
should still be current. shipping time was about a week.–
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Your price from AUS is easier to take.


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Any problems with sourcing this, let me know. I live less than a minute
away from Caulfield Jag, pass them twice daily and know the principles
personally.

Fazal

Keith Hodges wrote:> In reply to a message from jparsons sent Wed 12 Sep 2007:

Yes, I saw several parts houses with prices around your quote, and
several around 275. The $182.00 price was only a month ago, so
should still be current. shipping time was about a week.

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Your price from AUS is easier to take.

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In reply to a message from Fazal Cader sent Wed 12 Sep 2007:

So what exactly does this Amp you speak of, do?–
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It is an integral part of the climate-control system in the S3 and looks
after the operation of the system. For a detailed description of its
operation I’m afraid you’ll have to look up the J-L archives.

Regards
Fazal

Brewtech wrote:> In reply to a message from Fazal Cader sent Wed 12 Sep 2007:

So what exactly does this Amp you speak of, do?

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Anytime, Alex.

Fazal

Cannara wrote:> I’m going to order one, Fazal, so I may take you up if there are any

problems.

Alex

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In reply to a message from Fazal Cader sent Thu 13 Sep 2007:

Fazal, you weren’t in Little Rock, Arkansas last week were you? I
ran into a nice couple on the local Trolley ride from Melbourne,
visiting here. Didn’t catch their name though. Said they lived
close to Caufeld Jag also. Wish I’d caught their name, maybe you
know them. Keith.–
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In reply to a message from Keith Hodges sent Thu 13 Sep 2007:

Does anyone have a picture of this thing/ I thought I grabbed one
from a wreker for a spare but I may have gotten the wrong thing. I
also found the ‘‘shotgun’’ looking ACC Amp online for $231…is this
the same animal?–
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I’ll send you a pic of the one I busted open. The problem appears to be in
the relay contacts inside. They potted the whole thing in resin when they
built 'em, but, they apparently didn’t think to do it in a controlled
atmosphere, so the relays have lots of air inside that probably was moist and
polluted from the factory. Not bright.–
Alex
79xj6L SII (BRG + wires)
86xj6 SIII (Black)
61 Sprite MkII (Red)
Menlo Park, Calif.

JTsmks wrote:

In reply to a message from Keith Hodges sent Thu 13 Sep 2007:

Does anyone have a picture of this thing/ I thought I grabbed one
from a wreker for a spare but I may have gotten the wrong thing. I
also found the ‘‘shotgun’’ looking ACC Amp online for $231…is this
the same animal?

Jim White, 87 XJ6 SIII, 79 Triumph Bonneville Special
Orange Park, FL, United States

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The ‘shotgun’…

http://www.caulfieldjag.com.au/home.htm--
Alex
79xj6L SII (BRG + wires)
86xj6 SIII (Black)
61 Sprite MkII (Red)
Menlo Park, Calif.

JTsmks wrote:

In reply to a message from Keith Hodges sent Thu 13 Sep 2007:

Does anyone have a picture of this thing/ I thought I grabbed one
from a wreker for a spare but I may have gotten the wrong thing. I
also found the ‘‘shotgun’’ looking ACC Amp online for $231…is this
the same animal?

Jim White, 87 XJ6 SIII, 79 Triumph Bonneville Special
Orange Park, FL, United States

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Brewtech wrote:

In reply to a message from Fazal Cader sent Wed 12 Sep 2007:

So what exactly does this Amp you speak of, do?

It receives infomation from the various sensors in the AC set-up, Dalton

  • collates the info and turns the servo to the appropriate positions to
    get to, and hold, set cabin temps. The servo actually do the mechanical
    work using cam operated devices. Everything carefully tuned to the best
    effect - automatically…:slight_smile:

Frank
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Yeah, I was told the 1620 did a nice pecan encrusted chicken breast with
apple brandy sauce so I thought I’d chase it up. :-). And, please, we
are just good friends who happened to meet 10k miles from Melbourne!

Fazal
:slight_smile:

Keith Hodges wrote:> In reply to a message from Fazal Cader sent Thu 13 Sep 2007:

Fazal, you weren’t in Little Rock, Arkansas last week were you? I
ran into a nice couple on the local Trolley ride from Melbourne,
visiting here. Didn’t catch their name though. Said they lived
close to Caufeld Jag also. Wish I’d caught their name, maybe you
know them. Keith.

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