[xj-s] Cruise control problem

Hi all
I’m having a problem with my cruise control on my '88 V12,
when I reach the desired speed I switch the cruise on and then
press the set button (have some difficulty getting it to set) and
when it does activate the speed rises dramatically until I press
the brakes. Could it be the switch, the control unit or the cruise
bellows?
Any help will be greatly appreciated.–
Ozzy Osbourne '88 V12.
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on 4/26/03 2:58 PM, Ozzy Osbourne '88 V12. at adrusse2000@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Hi all
I’m having a problem with my cruise control on my '88 V12,
when I reach the desired speed I switch the cruise on and then
press the set button (have some difficulty getting it to set) and
when it does activate the speed rises dramatically until I press
the brakes. Could it be the switch, the control unit or the cruise
bellows?
Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Ozzy Osbourne '88 V12.
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If that really is your name can’t you just tell it to F8&*%$# stop it!
What you have to do is take the bellows apart lube up the valves inside
and seal the bellows onto the plates with a good qualitiy silicone sealer.

Or call Sharon…–
Cheers,
Les Marston,
'87 xjs,
'79 Harley Davidson.


“Cats & Hogs”

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on 4/26/03 2:58 PM, Ozzy Osbourne '88 V12. at adrusse2000@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Hi all
I’m having a problem with my cruise control on my '88 V12,
when I reach the desired speed I switch the cruise on and then
press the set button (have some difficulty getting it to set) and
when it does activate the speed rises dramatically until I press
the brakes. Could it be the switch, the control unit or the cruise
bellows?

Ozzy Osbourne '88 V12.

If that really is your name can’t you just tell it to F8&*%$# stop it!
What you have to do is take the bellows apart lube up the valves inside
and seal the bellows onto the plates with a good qualitiy silicone sealer.

Or call Sharon…–
Cheers,
Les Marston,
'87 xjs,
'79 Harley Davidson.


“Cats & Hogs”

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Les Marston wrote:

on 4/26/03 2:58 PM, Ozzy Osbourne '88 V12. at adrusse2000@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Hi all

This is the guy who had a little temper tantrum when responding to Wayne
Estrada’s talk about “Newbie’s” and when I responded he proceeded to
have me join many different organizations, some religious some ranchy.
My wife and son did not appreciate it! He then promptly changed his
e-mail from adrusse@blueyonder.co.uk to this new yahoo address. You
folks in the UK might take note that he’s certainly not being a very
good “Good will” ambassador for your country!
Dennis Cunningham
83 xj-s 5.3 64,000 miles beauty
83 xj-s 5.3 110,000 miles aggravation

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In reply to a message from Les Marston sent Sun 27 Apr 2003:

Thanks Les, thats good advice. By the way, whats that Dennis going
on about?–
Ozzy Osbourne '88 V12.
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In reply to a message from Ozzy Osbourne '88 V12. sent Sat 26 Apr 2003:

Hey Ozzy, you could try looking at the SET switch itself, migt have
dirty contacts- worth a try Jeff.

Denis, you shouldnt aire your dirty laundry in public, isn’t this
web site about Jaguas?–
The original message included these comments:

press the set button (have some difficulty getting it to set) and
Ozzy Osbourne '88 V12.


1986 3.6
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Howdy folks.

I get the occasional smoke blast out from under the passenger side of the
car and determined a while ago that it was transmission fluid. I made the
assumption, based on some advice from a fellow Jag-Lovers bud, that the
transmission vented a little when I ran at high RPMs. Since I do that
regularly, I know the transmission was a little over-filled on the last
service, and there is no evidence of a leak on the garage floor, I shrugged
and left it at that.

Now it’s happening more often and not always at high RPM drives. I ran just
a few errands the other day - beautiful 75 degree weather with bright sun,
35 mph or thereabouts for under an hour … stoplight = smoke. Every
stoplight = smoke. Took her out at 50-80 mph for two or three hours
yesterday - 60-70 degrees most of the trip at mostly at sunset and night -
no smoke, but found a drip on the cats that was clearly ATF. So now I’m
wondering if things need to be “more hot” to get the smoke, but the drip is
always there under pressure.

Thanks for the indulgence on the history. Now for the diagnosis … Like I
said, it will not leak when not running. I can’t even get it to leak idling
in the garage. This seems to be an at-speed only issue. I had the car up
on ramps this weekend and last, and am seeing the same thing in both cases:
there’s a line over the resonator that’s wet with ATF and seems to hold a
drip in reserve just waiting for the opportunity to drop off onto the
exhaust at all times. However, the line itself doesn’t seem to be leaking.
It’s just covered. I checked the dipstick to make sure (since it was a
little over-filled last time) it wasn’t coming up out of the tube at temp
… perfectly dry (I figured this pan was a little shallow for that, but my
Lincoln used to do that, so I thought I’d rule it out anyway). The vacuum
modulator is supposed to be new (long story), and doesn’t seem to be leaking
either!

In short, I can’t find ATF anywhere other than this line and the expected
splatter area, but the splatter area covers enough territory (including the
line itself) that I can’t figure out where the original leak is coming from.
Yes, I’ve cleaned it up, taken it out, and looked again. When I bring it
back, it’s just the same :confused: There’s never just one little drip somewhere as
a clue, there’s always a splatter covering that line and the surrounding
area.

Since I can’t duplicate the problem where I can actually see it happen, does
anybody have any knowledge of “common problem” spots I should be looking at
for this leak? Or am I just going to have to wait until it’s bad enough to
start dripping at idle to find it?

Thanks.

Gordon

'88 XJ-SC Lucas CEI (Bagheera)
'90 XJ6 Sovereign (Bob)
Alexandria, VA US

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no smoke, but found a drip on the cats that was clearly ATF. So now I’m
wondering if things need to be “more hot” to get the smoke, but the drip is
always there under pressure.
Thanks for the indulgence on the history. Now for the diagnosis … Like I
said, it will not leak when not running. I can’t even get it to leak
idling
in the garage. This seems to be an at-speed only issue. I had the car up
on ramps this weekend and last, and am seeing the same thing in both cases:
there’s a line over the resonator that’s wet with ATF and seems to hold a
drip in reserve just waiting for the opportunity to drop off onto the
exhaust at all times. However, the line itself doesn’t seem to be leaking.
It’s just covered. I checked the dipstick to make sure (since it was a
little over-filled last time) it wasn’t coming up out of the tube at temp
… perfectly dry (I figured this pan was a little shallow for that, but my
Lincoln used to do that, so I thought I’d rule it out anyway). The vacuum
modulator is supposed to be new (long story), and doesn’t seem to be
leaking
either!
(snip)

Take a look at the transmission cooling line fittings. You may have a
fitting (located where the line connects to the transmission housing) that
is no longer providing an adequate seal. Have you checked the front shaft
seal of the transmission? If you have a minute leak there, then, when
under pressure, the seal may leak. This would allow fluid to be dispersed
out the edge of the bell housing flange. As time goes on, this fauly seal
will allow more leaks, using less pressure than before.

Tex Terry, II
86 XJ-S Coupe V12 GM400 DANA 2.88
Franklin, PA USA

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I know that our trannies are different, as I have a 94 4.0L with ZF
transmission. But, I had a leak at the rear seal, which would spray onto the
rear cats when driving, but didn’t seam to be leaking at standstill in the
driveway. Just another place for you to look, I guess.

Gary

Since I can’t duplicate the problem where I can actually see it happen,
does
anybody have any knowledge of “common problem” spots I should be looking
at
for this leak? Or am I just going to have to wait until it’s bad enough
to
start dripping at idle to find it?

Thanks.

Gordon

'88 XJ-SC Lucas CEI (Bagheera)
'90 XJ6 Sovereign (Bob)
Alexandria, VA US

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Gordon, just a wild idea…

Since you haven’t found anything conclusive in the transmission department,
and since many (most?) of us use ATF in the power steering system…I
have to wonder if perhaps you have a steering leak ?

I mention this only because I had a similar scenario recently with my old
XJ6…thought I had a trans leak but it was really a power steering
problem.

Doug Dwyer
Longview, Washington USA

Since I can’t duplicate the problem where I can actually see it happen,
does
anybody have any knowledge of “common problem” spots I should be looking
at
for this leak? Or am I just going to have to wait until it’s bad enough
to
start dripping at idle to find it?

// please trim quoted text to context onlyFrom: “Gordon Vivace” gordon@myjags.net

Take a look at the transmission cooling line fittings. You may have a
fitting (located where the line connects to the transmission housing) that
is no longer providing an adequate seal. Have you checked the front shaft
seal of the transmission? If you have a minute leak there, then, when
under pressure, the seal may leak. This would allow fluid to be dispersed
out the edge of the bell housing flange. As time goes on, this fauly seal
will allow more leaks, using less pressure than before.

I actually HAVEN’T looked at the cooling line fittings. Given the history
I’ve had with oil cooler fittings, I probably should have guessed that might
be a common problem area :slight_smile:

Thanks Tex! I’ll climb under her with the flashlight tonight and take a
peek there.

Gordon

'88 XJ-SC Lucas CEI (Bagheera)
'90 XJ6 Sovereign (Bob)
Alexandria, VA US

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Bite your tongue Uncle Doug!

:wink:

God I hope not. I can’t really see how, as there is no evidence of fluid in
front of the tranny. I just had the entire rack replaced though … twice
:confused: The first guy screwed it up royally … I’ll poke around in there.

You’ll have to come peel me up off the floor and mail me to the mechanic so
I can do a cartoon style reinflation punch when he opens the envelope if it
turns out to be that :slight_smile:

Thanks, as always.

Gordon

Gordon, just a wild idea…

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I happen to have such a leak (line fittings) and it is intermittent. Now
that the weather is nice I plan to get the car up in the air and replace
it. What can I expect to pay for the parts?-----Original Message-----
From: Gordon Vivace [SMTP:gordon@myjags.net]
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 3:17 PM
To: actIIms@csonline.net; Jag- Lovers
Subject: RE: [xj-s] Minor ATF Leak

Take a look at the transmission cooling line fittings. You may have a
fitting (located where the line connects to the transmission housing)
that
is no longer providing an adequate seal. Have you checked the front
shaft
seal of the transmission? If you have a minute leak there, then, when
under pressure, the seal may leak. This would allow fluid to be
dispersed
out the edge of the bell housing flange. As time goes on, this fauly
seal
will allow more leaks, using less pressure than before.

I actually HAVEN’T looked at the cooling line fittings. Given the history
I’ve had with oil cooler fittings, I probably should have guessed that
might
be a common problem area :slight_smile:

Thanks Tex! I’ll climb under her with the flashlight tonight and take a
peek there.

Gordon

'88 XJ-SC Lucas CEI (Bagheera)
'90 XJ6 Sovereign (Bob)
Alexandria, VA US

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In reply to a message from Gordon Vivace sent Mon 28 Apr 2003:

Just a small possibility you should check out. Check the
transmission cooler line from ther front of the bell housing to the
radiator. Mine was loose on both ends and leaking on the
alternator. No smoke but no electricity. This line is found below
the air pump. One clamp on both ends.

Chris Guevara
85 XJ-S 5.3l HE V-12
HRITPUR–
Che
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In reply to a message from byrnal haley sent Sat 20 May 2006:

Byrnal, spent heaps of time also on my 85 c/control. Ditched it and
bought a Command unit here at Autobarn,$149. Fitted the vac unit
behind the lower section of rh headlamp,alongside the vacuam tank,
joined the cables at the rh crossbrace /fender junction. Fitted the
pad controller between the window switches on the ski slope and
used all NEW wiring,bypassing the oe stuff totally.Magnets were
easy to fit and set up also.Took 3 hours including lunch and beer
stops. Works best I have ever had and is super reliable.Any decent
auto people PEP boys etc should be able to help you over there.
Good Luck–
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Hi All, I’v been working on this thing for about a week. With the actuator


85 XJSV12.76S2XJ12
S.A., Australia
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