[xj] Windshied rust repair costs and technique, and some Jagphilosoph y

“Dr Gregory Andrachuk” mgb@uvvm.uvic.ca

Tim: this seems entirely reasonable for the work described, and your car
will look great!
Gregory----- Original Message -----
From: “Wasson, Tim” WassonT@kochind.com
To: xj@jag-lovers.org
Sent: jueves, 15 de junio de 2000 13:00
Subject: [xj] Windshied rust repair costs and technique, and some
Jagphilosoph y…

“Wasson, Tim” WassonT@kochind.com

First, the philosophy:

I finally reached a point were I decided to either fix my Jag (air, minor
rust, leaky tanks, etc) or get rid of it. After looking around and
driving
econoboxes, Dodge Neons, Japanese sedans, on up to Buick Centurys, (and
enjoying the cold air in each one!) I’ve realized again what a wonderful
combination of nearly sports-car handling, luxury car ride, low stable
agressive stance, classic looks, smooth power, intimate cabin feel, and
old-world craftsmanship the XJ6 really is. They are essentially the only
exotic car available to peons like myself.

Now the technical:

My car (84 VDP US Spec 113K) has the factory-installed rust around the
front
and rear windscreens, enough to penetrate the metal in one place on the
rear. Drivers door doesn’t fit exactly right, and is a shade darker than
the Antelope of the rest of the car. Small rust hole forming in wheelarch
in front of left rear tire, above the sill. Bottom of car is rust free
and
solid. The car had been resprayed at some time, not a great job - they
didn’t pull the lights or window trim, but it is dust free, shiny, but
with
some scratches on the front wings, and a few chips around the wheel
arches.

Today I priced the bodywork at a shop that looked to have about 1/3 of
it’s
business in classic/muscle cars. To remove both windows, fix rust holes,
and reinstall windows, blending paint into the rest of the body, will run
about $1050 USD. He was very familiar with the rusting, and will remove
and
install new metal where the rust has weakened things, and use aluminum
type
body filler instead of bondo to absolutly seal the repair from moisture.
This shop has done some rebuilder work for a friend of mine, and seems to
do
good work. Their labor rate is $38 USD/hr, which seems quite reasonable.
The time estimated was about 8 hours to remove/replace a window and
repair/replace metal as needed, and 4 hours to paint around each window,
so
a total of 24 hours plus materials. To align and paint/blend in the door,
and to repair the rust at the rear wheel, and to touch up the paint on the
rest of the car as needed, would add about $550 USD, so roughly around
$1700
to get the car looking really nice. Not concours, but very nice for an 84
model. I didn’t inquire about painting the rest of the car. He did ask
if
I had comprehensive insurance on the car, I didn’t, and he said it might
be
a good thing to get before starting the work, just in case. He knows the
windows are tricky to remove intact.

These costs seem fairly reasonable to me, what does the rest of the list
think?

Tim Wasson
84 VDP 113k “Lamb Chop” (due for a facelift)

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Arthur Blackwell <@Arthur_Blackwell>

I second the good Doctors remark!

Dr Gregory Andrachuk wrote:> “Dr Gregory Andrachuk” mgb@uvvm.uvic.ca

Tim: this seems entirely reasonable for the work described, and your car
will look great!
Gregory


Art Blackwell
Denver, CO

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“Paul” <@Paul>

That price for the rust sounds good.
I had all the rust repaired on my Jag in March. The rust bubbles in the back
were the worst, stretching from the seal to the gas caps! There were several
bubbles in the front, as well as one small one at the roof at the front
window.
The body shop charged me $1700, which included:
Front and back window removal.
All rust cut and welded metal replaced.
Computer color matched repaint.
All the primer and clearcoat.
New front glass.
Also, the guy cut out and replaced two bubbles by the side leaper emblem by
the front wheel.
Overall, the car looks very good. You can’t even tell it has been repainted
unless you look at it from a funny angle and the light is just right.
Paul
84 XJ6
New OEM window seals for the front and back windows.

First, the philosophy:

I finally reached a point were I decided to either fix my Jag (air, minor
rust, leaky tanks, etc) or get rid of it. After looking around and driving
econoboxes, Dodge Neons, Japanese sedans, on up to Buick Centurys, (and
enjoying the cold air in each one!) I’ve realized again what a wonderful
combination of nearly sports-car handling, luxury car ride, low stable
agressive stance, classic looks, smooth power, intimate cabin feel, and
old-world craftsmanship the XJ6 really is. They are essentially the only
exotic car available to peons like myself.

Now the technical:

My car (84 VDP US Spec 113K) has the factory-installed rust around the
front
and rear windscreens, enough to penetrate the metal in one place on the
rear. Drivers door doesn’t fit exactly right, and is a shade darker than
the Antelope of the rest of the car. Small rust hole forming in wheelarch
in front of left rear tire, above the sill. Bottom of car is rust free and
solid. The car had been resprayed at some time, not a great job - they
didn’t pull the lights or window trim, but it is dust free, shiny, but with
some scratches on the front wings, and a few chips around the wheel arches.

Today I priced the bodywork at a shop that looked to have about 1/3 of it’s
business in classic/muscle cars. To remove both windows, fix rust holes,
and reinstall windows, blending paint into the rest of the body, will run
about $1050 USD. He was very familiar with the rusting, and will remove
and
install new metal where the rust has weakened things, and use aluminum type
body filler instead of bondo to absolutly seal the repair from moisture.
This shop has done some rebuilder work for a friend of mine, and seems to
do
good work. Their labor rate is $38 USD/hr, which seems quite reasonable.
The time estimated was about 8 hours to remove/replace a window and
repair/replace metal as needed, and 4 hours to paint around each window, so
a total of 24 hours plus materials. To align and paint/blend in the door,
and to repair the rust at the rear wheel, and to touch up the paint on the
rest of the car as needed, would add about $550 USD, so roughly around
$1700
to get the car looking really nice. Not concours, but very nice for an 84
model. I didn’t inquire about painting the rest of the car. He did ask if
I had comprehensive insurance on the car, I didn’t, and he said it might be
a good thing to get before starting the work, just in case. He knows the
windows are tricky to remove intact.

These costs seem fairly reasonable to me, what does the rest of the list
think?

Tim Wasson
84 VDP 113k “Lamb Chop” (due for a facelift)

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