[xk] XK150S Auction sale

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Hello all,
Yesterday I received the November copy of Sports Car Market magazine. On
page 72 there’s a section convering the sale at Bonhams & Butterfields in
August of a 1959 Jaguar XK150 S 3.4L roadster S/N T831505DN, noted as
condition 3 and which sold for $155,000. Here is an except from the
comments, “The smaller engined 150, with the triple-carb S head and
overdrive. Some say it’s the preferred model, as the 3.8s are slightly
heavier.” Say what? Is that right? I don’t get it, the 3.8L engine is
heavier than the 3.4L??? Nah. What am I missing here?
Jerry Oliver
Olympia, WA
S830079 - 1958 XK150 OTS
S830318 - 1958 XK150 OTS
S836996DN - 1961 XK150 FHC
UE1S24964 - 1974 V12 OTS
CT54404L - 1966 Triumph TR4A

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In reply to a message from Jerry Oliver sent Sun 14 Oct 2007:

Don’t know Jerry! Sounds odd. Never seen different specs for
weight depending on engine. Maybe it’s not heavier, just weighs
more. (!)
-JB–
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Hello all,
Yesterday I received the November copy of Sports Car Market magazine. On
page 72 there’s a section convering the sale at Bonhams & Butterfields in
August of a 1959 Jaguar XK150 S 3.4L roadster S/N T831505DN, noted as
condition 3 and which sold for $155,000. Here is an except from the
comments, ‘‘The smaller engined 150, with the triple-carb S head and
overdrive. Some say it’s the preferred model, as the 3.8s are slightly
heavier.’’ Say what? Is that right? I don’t get it, the 3.8L engine is
heavier than the 3.4L??? Nah. What am I missing here?
Jerry Oliver

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Surely a 3.8 has to be lighter - larger bore diameter means bigger
holes, and the 3.8 cast on side of block must weigh a few grams less
than 3 1/2 cast on 3.4 block.

Clearly good advertising copy and you can’t criticise if it got knocked
down for $155K, as same car was sold at RM Auctions by 2nd owner with
40000mls in August 2005 for $110K, a one owner XK as of 1998.

Roger Payne - XK140MC OTS; E-Type 4.2 S.1 OTS; DSV8
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In reply to a message from Jerry Oliver sent Sun 14 Oct 2007:

Don’t know Jerry! Sounds odd. Never seen different specs for
weight depending on engine. Maybe it’s not heavier, just weighs
more. (!)
-JB

The original message included these comments:

Hello all,
Yesterday I received the November copy of Sports Car Market magazine.
On
page 72 there’s a section convering the sale at Bonhams & Butterfields
in
August of a 1959 Jaguar XK150 S 3.4L roadster S/N T831505DN, noted as
condition 3 and which sold for $155,000. Here is an except from the
comments, ‘‘The smaller engined 150, with the triple-carb S head and
overdrive. Some say it’s the preferred model, as the 3.8s are slightly
heavier.’’ Say what? Is that right? I don’t get it, the 3.8L engine
is
heavier than the 3.4L??? Nah. What am I missing here?
Jerry Oliver

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Hello Jerry Oliver:
That is unbelievable $ {155,000.] for a 59 XK-150S in #3
condition] ser# T-831505 DN, my # is T-831507, same model & all.>> I don’t
dear show this to my wife because she would say"sell it & lets take a trip
thru Europe !!]
Have a good day
Manny----- Original Message -----
From: “Jerry Oliver” JerrysJaguar@comcast.net
To: xk@jag-lovers.org
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 4:12 PM
Subject: [xk] XK150S Auction sale

Hello all,
Yesterday I received the November copy of Sports Car Market magazine. On
page 72 there’s a section convering the sale at Bonhams & Butterfields in
August of a 1959 Jaguar XK150 S 3.4L roadster S/N T831505DN, noted as
condition 3 and which sold for $155,000. Here is an except from the
comments, “The smaller engined 150, with the triple-carb S head and
overdrive. Some say it’s the preferred model, as the 3.8s are slightly
heavier.” Say what? Is that right? I don’t get it, the 3.8L engine is
heavier than the 3.4L??? Nah. What am I missing here?
Jerry Oliver
Olympia, WA
S830079 - 1958 XK150 OTS
S830318 - 1958 XK150 OTS
S836996DN - 1961 XK150 FHC
UE1S24964 - 1974 V12 OTS
CT54404L - 1966 Triumph TR4A

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A 3 minus…!! My friend Donald Osborne did the write-up on this one. I’ll
have a talk with him about “slightly heavier” I was under the impression
that all “S” models were 3.8. When you sell a car at auction, you don’t
want a buyer…you want 2 buyers…!! john shuck

Hello Jerry Oliver:
That is unbelievable $ {155,000.] for a 59 XK-150S in #3
condition] ser# T-831505 DN, my # is T-831507, same model & all.>> I don’t
dear show this to my wife because she would say"sell it & lets take a trip
thru Europe !!]
Have a good day
MannySubject: Re: [xk] XK150S Auction sale

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In reply to a message from john shuck sent Mon 26 Nov 2007:

Nope–only a hand full were 3.8 by Far the most were 3.4.–
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that all ‘‘S’’ models were 3.8. When you sell a car at auction, you don’t

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So there were 3.4 and 3.8 S models correct? Thanks

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Nope–only a hand full were 3.8 by Far the most were 3.4.–
The original message included these comments:

that all ‘‘S’’ models were 3.8. When you sell a car at auction, you don’t

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Manny,
Yes, someone wanted it bad enough. As the S model XK150s go to the heavens,
I hope they pull up my non S cars.

Jerry Oliver
Olympia, WA
S830079 - 1958 XK150 OTS
S830318 - 1958 XK150 OTS
S836996DN - 1961 XK150 FHC
UE1S24964 - 1974 V12 OTS
CT54404L - 1966 Triumph TR4A-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xk@jag-lovers.org [mailto:owner-xk@jag-lovers.org] On Behalf Of
mshucard@peoplepc.com
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 1:25 PM
To: xk@jag-lovers.org
Subject: Re: [xk] XK150S Auction sale

Hello Jerry Oliver:
That is unbelievable $ {155,000.] for a 59 XK-150S in #3
condition] ser# T-831505 DN, my # is T-831507, same model & all.>> I don’t
dear show this to my wife because she would say"sell it & lets take a trip
thru Europe !!]
Have a good day
Manny

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From: “Jerry Oliver” <@Jerry_Oliver2>
To: xk@jag-lovers.org
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 4:12 PM
Subject: [xk] XK150S Auction sale

Hello all,
Yesterday I received the November copy of Sports Car Market magazine. On
page 72 there’s a section convering the sale at Bonhams & Butterfields in
August of a 1959 Jaguar XK150 S 3.4L roadster S/N T831505DN, noted as
condition 3 and which sold for $155,000. Here is an except from the
comments, “The smaller engined 150, with the triple-carb S head and
overdrive. Some say it’s the preferred model, as the 3.8s are slightly
heavier.” Say what? Is that right? I don’t get it, the 3.8L engine is
heavier than the 3.4L??? Nah. What am I missing here?
Jerry Oliver
Olympia, WA
S830079 - 1958 XK150 OTS
S830318 - 1958 XK150 OTS
S836996DN - 1961 XK150 FHC
UE1S24964 - 1974 V12 OTS
CT54404L - 1966 Triumph TR4A

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John,
Yes, most S model XK150s were 3.4L, with the later XK150 S or non S cars
(after mid 59) being either. Also offered was both a 3.4L and 3.8L two carb
version. I own one, a late 3.8L two carb FHC. So, for the earlier XK150, 2
engine choices, while the later cars had 4 engines available.

Jerry Oliver
Olympia, WA
S830079 - 1958 XK150 OTS
S830318 - 1958 XK150 OTS
S836996DN - 1961 XK150 FHC
UE1S24964 - 1974 V12 OTS
CT54404L - 1966 Triumph TR4A-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xk@jag-lovers.org [mailto:owner-xk@jag-lovers.org] On Behalf Of
john shuck
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 3:26 PM
To: xk@jag-lovers.org
Subject: RE: [xk] XK150S Auction sale

So there were 3.4 and 3.8 S models correct? Thanks

In reply to a message from john shuck sent Mon 26 Nov 2007:

Nope–only a hand full were 3.8 by Far the most were 3.4.

The original message included these comments:

that all ‘‘S’’ models were 3.8. When you sell a car at auction, you don’t

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