[E-Type] Distributo Cap avail and a SILVER coil?

E-Type
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Hey folks,
Do you know where I can get a cap quickly for my 4.2L 66? Moss is out. I was
hoping to drive this weekend…I think my cap is the problem my car keeps
dying.

goes like this…It dies. No sputter. No misfire. So I take it off the cap
and check all connections. I plug it back and it runs great for a few
minutes then it dies.

I stretched the spring inside where the coil wire connects and it ran
longer. I had the coil checked at Autozone and they said “It be workin
fine.”

The coil is dented. I bought a new black coil there but I think it needs to
be silver to go with the rest of that beautiful engine compartment. Any
idears welcum.

Cheers,

Scott Willis
Mashed 60 BN7 AH Club USA
59 MGA
66 E-Type FHC
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In a message dated 11/20/2006 6:20:48 PM Pacific Standard Time,
ahpowered@hotmail.com writes:
The coil is dented. I bought a new black coil there but I think it needs to
be silver to go with the rest of that beautiful engine compartment. Any
idears welcum.------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Scott,
I bought a Luca Super Sport coil, and used some emery cloth to carefully
take off the gold anodize. Takes a little while, but that was my solution.
Best, Mike Moore

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In reply to a message from MMoore8425@aol.com sent Tue 21 Nov 2006:

The Flamethrower comes in shimey chrome.–
'70 E Roadster 1R11998, '98 XK8 Roadster, www.XKEBooks.com
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In a message dated 11/20/2006 9:13:23 PM Pacific Standard Time,
rcliggitt@cox.net writes:

The Flamethrower comes in shimey chrome.------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Thanks, but, I didn’t want a Flamethrower with shimey chrome. I wanted a
Lucas coil with an aluminum finish.
Best, Mike Moore

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Scott,
In my experience a cap (or rotor) would not cause your symptom. They
either work, work poorly or not at all but not intermittant. Given
they think your coil is good my next guess would be the condenser. It
doesn’t cost much to replace it just to find out. You might want to
verify that you’ve got 12V at the ign (+) side of the coil also after
the motor quits.
pauls 67ots

Hey folks,
Do you know where I can get a cap quickly for my 4.2L 66? Moss is out. I was
hoping to drive this weekend…I think my cap is the problem my car keeps
dying.

goes like this…It dies. No sputter. No misfire. So I take it off the cap
and check all connections. I plug it back and it runs great for a few
minutes then it dies.

I stretched the spring inside where the coil wire connects and it ran
longer. I had the coil checked at Autozone and they said “It be workin
fine.”

The coil is dented. I bought a new black coil there but I think it needs to
be silver to go with the rest of that beautiful engine compartment. Any
idears welcum.

Cheers,

Scott Willis
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Subject: [E-Type] Distributo Cap avail and a SILVER coil?

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In reply to a message from scott willis sent Tue 21 Nov 2006:

Have you tried the black coil to see if that cures your problem?

I had the same problem with a Fiat Spider. Drive it 20 miles and
it dies. Tow it home and it runs fine. The new coil I bought when
I restored the car was bad. I put the old dented black coil back
on and never had another problem in the five years I owned the car.–
John Walker, 1969 2+2 - ‘Lola’
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In reply to a message from John Walker sent Tue 21 Nov 2006:

I had the similar problems with my '64. When going up the local
mountians to Lake Arrowhead the car would act like it had bad spark
plugs or wires. Too much load and it would misfire. By backing off
the throttle I got to the lake. It came home fine. It seemed like
if the engine got to 3/4 hot this problem would occur. It finally
quit for good a block from my house. Now I could find it. After
pushing it to my house (it was a hundred that day) a called a
friend and he brought over all his spare ignition parts. First
thing changed was the rotor. Problem fixed! I had looked at rotor
before
in the light of my garage - looked OK. This time I took it into the
sunlight and could see a hairline crack down the center with a
little carbon trail.

In its earlier stages the dist. shaft must expanded enough to have
opened up the crack enough to misfire. It got worse from that point.

Art Weatherly
Riverside Ca.
'64 OTS 880430
'52 OTS 672166–
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Hi All,
We’ve recently changed to AFI for our home and cars, the agent
inquired about my carrier for the E’s and offered a preliminary
estimate that was several hundred less than Hagerty. I didn’t think
to much about it at the time but SWMBO ;-)has asked that I check it
out. I have a call out to the agent inquiring as to the limitations,
one thing is that AFI requires an estimate for the car(s) value where
as Hagerty went by stated value. The agent went on to say that when
push comes to shove the stated value has little relevance as the Ins.
Co. will base their reimbursement on an appraisal at the time of the
loss, if it disagrees with the stated value then it would be the
lesser of the two.
Has anyone had any experience with AFI and issues regarding ‘stated
value’?
Cheers,
Lynn

Lynn G
73 2+2 (Pearle)
68 OTS (Emmy)
Boise, ID USA

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In reply to a message from Lynn Gardner sent Tue 21 Nov 2006:

Lynn,

No experience with AFI but what he is saying is the way that
the regular auto insurance companies work.

The fundamental difference between ‘‘regular’’ auto insurance
and collectors auto insurance is precisely what your agent
says. In the event of a claim without ‘‘agreed value’’ then
the insurance company will pay out or write off based on
their assessed/market value. Most regular insurance co’s
will not even entertain agreed or stated value in my
experience. AFI will, it seems in an honest admission, will
always pay out on the lesser of the stated or the assessed.
Do you trust the assessed value ever to be the same as
stated? I wouldn’t. The difference in the risk is the
difference in the cost!

The collectors insurance companies as far as I know all use
agreed value, and will pay out on that. This is a
fundamental principle to the collector insurance business.

If you are insured by collectors for say $40k then you can
expect to get 40k if stolen or damaged as in written off.
Because you pay a premium for that level of coverage. A
stated value with AFI may cost you a lot less, but not so
much fun when they write off the E-Type with an assessed
value of $5k.

Given that my auto insurance for a 2002 Jeep Lberty and a
2003 Golf GTI when it would be a miracle if they are worth
more than $20k combined is around $1200 per year in NJ for
damage to the vehicle, collision and otherwise, ignoring
medical, personal injury etc., $750 to insure the repro D
for $120k agreed value for collision and ‘‘other’’ is a bargain!

I personally wouldn’t want to have the ‘‘experience’’.

Regards

Keith–
The original message included these comments:

We’ve recently changed to AFI for our home and cars, the agent
inquired about my carrier for the E’s and offered a preliminary
estimate that was several hundred less than Hagerty. I didn’t think
to much about it at the time but SWMBO ;-)has asked that I check it
out. I have a call out to the agent inquiring as to the limitations,
one thing is that AFI requires an estimate for the car(s) value where
as Hagerty went by stated value. The agent went on to say that when
push comes to shove the stated value has little relevance as the Ins.
Co. will base their reimbursement on an appraisal at the time of the
loss, if it disagrees with the stated value then it would be the
lesser of the two.

–
Keith Bertenshaw
Rockaway, NJ, United States
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In reply to a message from Lynn Gardner sent Tue 21 Nov 2006:

With AFI you will buy the services of a certified appraiser on a
frequent basis to justify a potential claim. In the event of a
claim, AFI would determine how much justice you can afford and
counteroffer $0.01 above that threshold.–
Uncle John L with a '72 OTS
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Thanks Keith, Appreciate the input and will mull it over a bit.
Cheers,
LynnOn Nov 21, 2006, at 12:05 PM, KeithB wrote:

In reply to a message from Lynn Gardner sent Tue 21 Nov 2006:

Lynn,

No experience with AFI but what he is saying is the way that
the regular auto insurance companies work.

The fundamental difference between ‘‘regular’’ auto insurance
and collectors auto insurance is precisely what your agent
says. In the event of a claim without ‘‘agreed value’’ then
the insurance company will pay out or write off based on
their assessed/market value. Most regular insurance co’s
will not even entertain agreed or stated value in my
experience. AFI will, it seems in an honest admission, will
always pay out on the lesser of the stated or the assessed.
Do you trust the assessed value ever to be the same as
stated? I wouldn’t. The difference in the risk is the
difference in the cost!

The collectors insurance companies as far as I know all use
agreed value, and will pay out on that. This is a
fundamental principle to the collector insurance business.

If you are insured by collectors for say $40k then you can
expect to get 40k if stolen or damaged as in written off.
Because you pay a premium for that level of coverage. A
stated value with AFI may cost you a lot less, but not so
much fun when they write off the E-Type with an assessed
value of $5k.

Given that my auto insurance for a 2002 Jeep Lberty and a
2003 Golf GTI when it would be a miracle if they are worth
more than $20k combined is around $1200 per year in NJ for
damage to the vehicle, collision and otherwise, ignoring
medical, personal injury etc., $750 to insure the repro D
for $120k agreed value for collision and ‘‘other’’ is a bargain!

I personally wouldn’t want to have the ‘‘experience’’.

Regards

Keith

The original message included these comments:

We’ve recently changed to AFI for our home and cars, the agent
inquired about my carrier for the E’s and offered a preliminary
estimate that was several hundred less than Hagerty. I didn’t think
to much about it at the time but SWMBO ;-)has asked that I check it
out. I have a call out to the agent inquiring as to the limitations,
one thing is that AFI requires an estimate for the car(s) value where
as Hagerty went by stated value. The agent went on to say that when
push comes to shove the stated value has little relevance as the Ins.
Co. will base their reimbursement on an appraisal at the time of the
loss, if it disagrees with the stated value then it would be the
lesser of the two.

–
Keith Bertenshaw
Rockaway, NJ, United States
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In reply to a message from Uncle John L sent Tue 21 Nov 2006:

Well put, Uncle.

I use Parish-Heacock for the Austin Healey because they gave
me a higher Agreed Value. That’s the amount they are ready
to pay - so that’s why they scrutinized the car before
agreeing to the value. I actually took it to their office.

I use AON for the Jaguars because of the low restrictions.
I can drive them anywhere and frequently, including letting
safe drivers (good record for 5 years) over 21 behind the
wheel. None of the other companies were so lenient. The
cost is quite reasonable, and it’s based on photos, etc.,
and established Agreed Value. I haven’t had any claims
experience and don’t want to, either. However, something
may be up with them. I just went to their website and found
this message:

‘‘Aon Collector Car Insurance is no longer accepting new
business.
We are pleased to recommend the Elite Collector Car Program
from American Modern for your unique collector car insurance
needs.
Click here for a new business quote at
www.EliteCollectorCar.com.
For service on an existing Aon Collector Car policy, please
e-mail: service@aoncollectorcar.com’’

Well, anyway, here’s what they used to offer:
http://www.aonrecreation.com/insurance/collectorinscov.jsp--
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With AFI you will buy the services of a certified appraiser on a
frequent basis to justify a potential claim. In the event of a
claim, AFI would determine how much justice you can afford and
counteroffer $0.01 above that threshold.
Uncle John L with a '72 OTS

–
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Central Florida, United States
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Hi All,
Had a great day for November here in Id. There was a glimpse of clear
sky off to the west so Jan, Myself and Emmy Lou took of in search of
the sun. We took a route that had some nice 4 lane sweeping hills/
curves the first half and twisty 2 lane coming back. The weather was
very accommodating and while it looked like it rained in Horseshoe
Bend just before we got there it stayed dry the whole time and the
hood was down for the drive.
Going up to Horseshoe Bent there was some dude playing cat an mouse
with me and coming down the hill into the town, guess who we should
meet coming around a corner. You bet, Smokey, the SUV was passing me
and I didn’t get pulled over but he did. (whew, that was close!).
But the fates being who they are decided to make me sweat a bit too,
shortly after we left the SUV Jan (SWMBO) smelled something and at
about this time the gauges all dropped out, what a chill when the oil
gauge starts dropping. I pulled over, the engine ran fine and
ckecked the real oil pressure gauge under the bonnett and it was fine
so drove into town planning on cutting back home but thought I would
check the wiring. Yup, you guessed it a fuse (#7) burned out.
Replaced the fuse continued on our way, stopped at a winery bought
some wine and then on to the Capri Dinner and had the best $3.50
Bacon Cheeseburger/fries that I have ever had.
As we got home the wind came up the clouds are closing in and I wash
Miss Emmy up later.
Take care,
Lynn

Lynn G
73 2+2 (Pearle)
68 OTS (Emmy)
Boise, ID USA

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Thanks Uncle John,
I’m thinking that the savings up front may cost me more in the long
run with appraisals even if I don’t have a claim.
Cheers,
LynnOn Nov 21, 2006, at 2:57 PM, Uncle John L wrote:

In reply to a message from Lynn Gardner sent Tue 21 Nov 2006:

With AFI you will buy the services of a certified appraiser on a
frequent basis to justify a potential claim. In the event of a
claim, AFI would determine how much justice you can afford and
counteroffer $0.01 above that threshold.

Uncle John L with a '72 OTS

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I would be worried that if you do have a major damage claim you might have a
real problem settling on a true value. Now is the time to find out how you
are going to be treated when you have a major claim, not after the accident
happens. I like having an “agreed value” determined prior to a claim.

Len W
68 OTS
Tucson,AZ----- Original Message -----
From: “Lynn Gardner” lgardner28@cableone.net
To: e-type@jag-lovers.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [E-Type]American Family Ins For Classic cars?

Thanks Uncle John,
I’m thinking that the savings up front may cost me more in the long run
with appraisals even if I don’t have a claim.
Cheers,
Lynn
On Nov 21, 2006, at 2:57 PM, Uncle John L wrote:

In reply to a message from Lynn Gardner sent Tue 21 Nov 2006:

With AFI you will buy the services of a certified appraiser on a
frequent basis to justify a potential claim. In the event of a
claim, AFI would determine how much justice you can afford and
counteroffer $0.01 above that threshold.

Uncle John L with a '72 OTS

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What a wonderful way to end the driving season. And you even got to let some smoke out of the wires before winter hibrenation.
LLoyd–
My driveway is long enough that you can appreciate the conflict between the desire for privacy and the terror of being completely lost .

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Lynn Gardner lgardner28@cableone.net

Hi All,
Had a great day for November here in Id. There was a glimpse of clear
sky off to the west so Jan, Myself and Emmy Lou took of in search of
the sun. We took a route …

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In reply to a message from scott willis sent Tue 21 Nov 2006:

Scott,

I have a NOS Lucas distributor cap #54414989 that you’re
welcome to for what the usuals charge. Let me know and I
will post it tomorrow. The correct coil for your E-Type is a
HA-12, Lucas #45104. This coil is identified with the SW and
CB markings and long tapered neck. NOS coils are made out of
‘‘unobtainium’’. Used ones do show up on E-bay from time to
time. They are easy to restore and seem to last forever.

Don

'62 OTS #877539
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Thanks LLoyd,
It was a wonderful way to wind up the season, I was shocked to have
such a fine day this late in the year.
Cheers,
LynnOn Nov 21, 2006, at 4:46 PM, soothsayer1@comcast.net wrote:

What a wonderful way to end the driving season. And you even got
to let some smoke out of the wires before winter hibrenation.
LLoyd

–
My driveway is long enough that you can appreciate the conflict
between the desire for privacy and the terror of being completely
lost .

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Lynn Gardner <@Lynn_Gardner>

Hi All,
Had a great day for November here in Id. There was a glimpse of clear
sky off to the west so Jan, Myself and Emmy Lou took of in search of
the sun. We took a route …

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Lynn,
You are living a charmed life!
Randy
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It was a wonderful way to wind up the season, I was shocked to have
such a fine day this late in the year.

Grab them when you can! Nice story.

I drove the 65E over the weekend … from the barn to the garage. =\

The sun was out for about an hour so I grabbed the chance. I’ve
escalated the home-brewing of Diesel to the next step, which does
involve heating the oil. I figured I’d rather be safe than sorry and
relocated the Jaguar to the garage for the time being. So the Jetta
lives in the barn now, and if the whole thing goes up in flames I’d
MUCH rather be dealing with insurance on a new “daily driver” than a
classic family heirloom!

I’ll have to bookmark that burger place in Idaho for um… future reference.

Oh, and Lynn… get a radar detector!–
–chuck goolsbee
65ots, 1E10715
arlington, wa, usa
http://chuck.goolsbee.org

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